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    Odd sight on the M11 Monday

    Driving Northbound on the M11 on Monday afternoon, near Stansted I think I saw a convoy of a coach followed by what looked like 5 or 6 plain white large box vans with a large Police escort of 4 or 5 motorbikes and a couple of Range Rovers all with their blue lights on, any ideas what it might have been?
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    They were delivering my chicken pasta. In a panic stricken return to work, following a two week Easter break, I had stupidly left my lunch box at home !!! (*)

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    (*) Ok I lied. No idea really.

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    Just a wild guess: Things that go bang?

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    UK's first shipment of the new SS Daytona haha

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    Delivering a replacement day-date?


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    Quote Originally Posted by stooo View Post
    Delivering a replacement day-date?


    Sent from my starship orbiting Uranus.
    This is obviously the correct answer, the coach mush have been full of hookers.
    Cheers all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    Driving Northbound on the M11 on Monday afternoon, near Stansted I think I saw a convoy of a coach followed by what looked like 5 or 6 plain white large box vans with a large Police escort of 4 or 5 motorbikes and a couple of Range Rovers all with their blue lights on, any ideas what it might have been?
    I worked for a company that took deliveries of nuclear materials occasionally - quite a similar spectacle.

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    This was also posted on one of my regular FB groups. Consensus is it's either weapons and ammo, or somethings to to with the EU referendum equipment

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    Possibly a large amount of cash, bullion or drugs to be destroyed. Don't know why they would have a coach there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhexagon View Post
    Possibly a large amount of cash, bullion or drugs to be destroyed. Don't know why they would have a coach there though.
    To carry personnel in case of emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    To carry personnel in case of emergency.
    Wouldn't they have been in the Range Rovers?

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    That convoy was the decoy.

    The drugs/gold/EU referendum equipment (eh?)/arms/plutonium were in the back of a Vauxhall Nova on the A12.

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    Could be worse. You could have nuclear weapons being transported up and down your motorway like we have on the M74 and M8 here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch21 View Post
    That convoy was the decoy.

    The drugs/gold/EU referendum equipment (eh?)/arms/plutonium were in the back of a Vauxhall Nova on the A12.
    The only problem with using a Nova is that you'd have all the retro car nuts taking photos of it though (off topic - but I was quite surprised by the cost of them these days).

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhexagon View Post
    Wouldn't they have been in the Range Rovers?
    Coaches carry more personnel than can be carried in a few Range Rovers.

    To the best of my knowledge, convoys roughly similar to the one described here are used to carry nuclear warheads (or potentially all sorts of seriously valuable, dangerous or sensitive items as suggested above). Thus there is potentially a need for reasonable numbers of people promptly on hand to handle all sorts of emergency (or just to secure the convoy if pulling over somewhere).

    There's a website which describes the usual makeup of a nuclear warhead convoy: http://www.nukewatch.org.uk/?page_id=21. The website is anti-nuke and I'm not anti-nuke but it makes interesting reading nonetheless.

    The convoy described by the OP does not exactly match the description of a nuclear warhead convoy but it's not too far off.

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    It could be something ‘nuclear’.

    Not warheads, as they travel in large green or blue trucks and have mainly military support vehicles, but perhaps nuclear material within the white vans and the coach would have engineers/support personnel in case of a problem en route.

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    It's alexaff's porn stash they are moving about.

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    So, OP, your lume now has a lifetime charge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stooo View Post
    So, OP, your lume now has a lifetime charge!
    It wasn't this, these convoys use navy blue foden trucks(unlike the military green mercs), and always have an emergency truck with them. The convoy being discussed wasn't nuclear.

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    Seems that way, I'll be using that WUS like description on SC with confidence..
    Thanks all, it does sound like that was indeed a nuclear materials convoy. Not a super villain in sight either,slackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazzafaegreenock View Post
    It wasn't this, these convoys use navy blue foden trucks(unlike the military green mercs), and always have an emergency truck with them. The convoy being discussed wasn't nuclear.
    Don't spoil it now ! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    Don't spoil it now ! Lol
    I should also point out. It originated in the Suffolk area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazzafaegreenock View Post
    It wasn't this, these convoys use navy blue foden trucks(unlike the military green mercs), and always have an emergency truck with them. The convoy being discussed wasn't nuclear.
    Those are Seddon Atkinson rather than Foden: link. I'd expect that they are used for one specific type of material. Might not other materials use different vehicles?

    If it's of any interest: Local authority and emergency services information (LAESI) (edition 10).


    Quote Originally Posted by gazzafaegreenock View Post
    I should also point out. It originated in the Suffolk area.
    MOD convoys vary their routes. Do you know something specific about this one?

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    It was going Southbound so could have come out of East Anglia via the A11, I neglected to mention in my op

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Those are Seddon Atkinson rather than Foden: link. I'd expect that they are used for one specific type of material. Might not other materials use different vehicles?

    If it's of any interest: Local authority and emergency services information (LAESI) (edition 10).




    MOD convoys vary their routes. Do you know something specific about this one?
    Apologies, SA, not foden. Getting mixed up with my classic British commercial truck manufacturers...

    These white merc 7.5toners are used to transport the likes of javelin launchers, and other bits of heavy military hardware. Living in a few military heavy counties in my time, I've seen them all around, from the SAS barracks at Hereford to the ammo stores at longtown.

    Also, if you contact driver hire in Carlisle they're currently looking for civilian drivers to transport the gear in white artics out of longtown. Pretty non describe wagons but always tailed by a wee white Peugeot van😉
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazzafaegreenock View Post
    Apologies, SA, not foden. Getting mixed up with my classic British commercial truck manufacturers...

    These white merc 7.5toners are used to transport the likes of javelin launchers, and other bits of heavy military hardware. Living in a few military heavy counties in my time, I've seen them all around, from the SAS barracks at Hereford to the ammo stores at longtown.

    Also, if you contact driver hire in Carlisle they're currently looking for civilian drivers to transport the gear in white artics out of longtown. Pretty non describe wagons but always tailed by a wee white Peugeot van
    Ah-ha...thanks for that. The convoy the OP saw sound a bit bigger than that, especially as it has a coach for back-up personnel (including specialists) so I suspect it was SNM. Perhaps it had been transported by air and landed at an air base in East Anglia?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    Driving Northbound on the M11 on Monday afternoon, near Stansted I think I saw a convoy of a coach followed by what looked like 5 or 6 plain white large box vans with a large Police escort of 4 or 5 motorbikes and a couple of Range Rovers all with their blue lights on, any ideas what it might have been?

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    Definitely a coach leading followed by the unmarked identical box vans, 2 police bikes up front with another 2 about a mile in front at junctions, with at least one probably 2 marked Range Rovers following, all lights going.
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    Actually its not a million miles away from the royal mint. Could have been new plates or something ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    Definitely a coach leading followed by the unmarked identical box vans, 2 police bikes up front with another 2 about a mile in front at junctions, with at least one probably 2 marked Range Rovers following, all lights going.
    They would require HAZMAT warning signs on them if carrying nuclear (or any other hazardous) materials.
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    Actually its not the royal mint I'm thinking of but the place in Debden that prints notes for the bank of england. maybe its a new plate delivery or fancy paper or ink made from unicorn pee.

    i remember there being some local story that there is no junction direct to the motorway there in case its robbed, probably bunkum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwg663 View Post
    They would require HAZMAT warning signs on them if carrying nuclear (or any other hazardous) materials.
    Except that: MoD side-steps nuclear transport hazard warning regulations

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    Cameron's unpaid tax on its way to the treasury.

    To then be given back to his cronies as expenses.

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    I live near there, it was my sons dinner money

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    It was the immediate response convoy for deployment in the event of a zombie apocalypse. The convoy drives in a huge circle, the centre of which is London, stopping off at pre-determined and highly secure points every 72 hours for a change of operatives. If you ever see it stop and the vehicles form up in a circle, make sure you have something to hand that can be used to stove in zombie skulls.

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    I think an earlier thread also determined that a DSSD was required for surviving a zombie apocalypse.


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    Bobbies late for their lunch or a day trip out for the bad boys of the big house?

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    As a child I remember seeing a similar convoy going through East London to the Bank of England print works. Motorbikes front and back would stop traffic at all junctions to ensure the truck never stopped. The truck was special, it had a second cab behind and above the drivers cab. There sat armed police, clearly visible from the road side. I was always told it was old money being taken to be insinerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essexman View Post
    Motorbikes front and back would stop traffic at all junctions to ensure the truck never stopped.
    I saw Tony Blair escorted through West London in a similar convoy back in the day. So yeah, could be nuclear waste, could be Blair... any highly toxic and dangerous cargo really.

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    Something a little similar happened to me on the M3

    Just passing the turn to Aldermaston late on Sunday night and a convoy of white box vans joined the motorway. Uniformed drivers, consecutive number plates and consecutive numbering high up on the back of each van. I was so curious I left the motorway and rejoined at the same junction so I could have another look.

    They were going my way into London, so I followed at a discrete distance, but I lost them somewhere around Earls Court. Picked some of them up later as they went into the City, and finally saw a couple stop on the side of the road in Lower Thames St. Couldn't resist, so parked round the corner and got out to have a look.

    The back of one of the vans was open and several men were unloading large bundles of... newspapers.

    Guess that was never going to be my journalistic debut.

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    If it was near Manchester, I'd have said kids on a school trip perhaps?

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    So much excitement for a few spent fuel rods !

    We have these carriages rolling through Carlisle station quite regularly, to/from Sellafield I imagine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_flask





    just rolling through, no guns, no police, three eyed fish in their wake

    you could jump from the platform onto it....

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


    Many moons ago, I used to be in charge of loading those rail wagons with the spent fuel 'flasks' from Hunterston Power Station.



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    I had never realised before the devastating effect that past exposure to radioactive waste can have on text fonts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhexagon View Post
    Could be worse. You could have nuclear weapons being transported up and down your motorway like we have on the M74 and M8 here.
    Seriously? Where do they go to? The mind boggles at the possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 72bpm View Post
    Seriously? Where do they go to? The mind boggles at the possibilities.
    Burghfield to Coulport...by various routes (link):


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    ^^^^. That's missing Plymouth, specifically Devonport Naval Dockyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    ^^^^. That's missing Plymouth, specifically Devonport Naval Dockyard.

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    Nuclear weapons are not handled at Plymouth, so nuclear fuel and conventional weapons movements only.

    Edit: I believe it must be pretty rare for a SSBN to visit Plymouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    So much excitement for a few spent fuel rods !

    We have these carriages rolling through Carlisle station quite regularly, to/from Sellafield I imagine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_flask





    just rolling through, no guns, no police, three eyed fish in their wake

    you could jump from the platform onto it....
    Pulled by a Deltic?



    http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/galas/010898.htm
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