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    Baselworld 2016: Omega Teaser...

    So Omega just put out a teaser on their Instagram page...

    https://www.instagram.com/omega/
    Last edited by W44NNE; 13th March 2016 at 19:54.

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    Ceramic orange PO with Master CoAxial movement.

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    orange liquidmetal surely for the PO?

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    Pity I've got the 2500d orange PO or I'd be all over this

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    Globemaster

    The Globe master has a bit of a Rolex date just feel to my eye.

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    orange, liquid metal planet ocean

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmellor View Post
    The Globe master has a bit of a Rolex date just feel to my eye.
    Not just your eye I'm sure!

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    They've just added another, similar but instead of liquid orange it seems to be carbon fibre...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarfan View Post
    They've just added another, similar but instead of liquid orange it seems to be carbon fibre...
    Hopefully nothing like the carbon Ingenieur!

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    And another - looks like black LiquidMetal perhaps?

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    Love this place, especially the near real time news feeds 😀

    Perhaps they are pulling out of 007 sponsorship and going with Terminator 😄

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    Black ceramic PO.

    I've seen other variations of the PO that are coming.. not sure on them at all.

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    The PO is easily my favourite watch, really been looking forward to seeing what they release on this revision. Tomorrow is a pretty busy day work wise but hopefully I'll get some time to check out the news releases pre Baselworld.

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    Seeing as how the Globemaster has only just reached their ADs (link)...I won't be getting excited about their teaser.

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    That blue dial Speedie on blue leather is something else, the dial reminds me of the Schumacher edition but in blue. Love that. The rest are a bit meh, imo.

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    Liquid metal and ceramic are the components of a ceramic bezel for Omega.
    The ceramic bezel is made with the numbers / edges laser etched out, then they super heat a Zirconium alloy (LiquidMetal) disc, which is pressed into the cavities filling them in.
    The result is a very tough bezel which Omega say will retain its colour indefinitely

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~dadam02~ View Post
    That blue dial Speedie on blue leather is something else, the dial reminds me of the Schumacher edition but in blue. Love that. The rest are a bit meh, imo.
    Some like it...some don't, see: thread.

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    ALL too thick these days which is a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    Liquid metal and ceramic are the components of a ceramic bezel for Omega.
    The ceramic bezel is made with the numbers / edges laser etched out, the a super heated Zirconium alloy (LiquidMetal) disc is pressed into the cavities filling them in.
    The result is a very tough bezel which Omega say will retain its colour indefinitely
    But chocolate brown: 215.63.40.20.13.001...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    But chocolate brown: 215.63.40.20.13.001...?
    Trying to steal some YM, Everose customers that don't like the rubber strap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Some like it...some don't, see: thread.
    Actually tbf that is really nice, way too big for me though.

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    Looking forward to details and photos of the bread and butter 3 handers. Anyone heard any mention of micro adjustment on the clasp of the new models?

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    Reading the blurb for the new Speedmaster 'CK2998':

    "The OMEGA Calibre 1861 was the iconic movement used in the very first Moonwatch. For today’s model, OMEGA has retained the same movement to offer a true sense of authenticity. Due to its rarity, only 2,998 of these collectable watches have been produced."

    I hate to nitpack Omega but... surely that's fluffly marketing BS? The calibre of movement in the first moon watch was the Cal. 321 and whilst I appreciate that the 1861 is an evolution of the 861 which is an evolution of the 321, but it sure isn't the movement which was used in the first moon watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    Reading the blurb for the new Speedmaster 'CK2998':

    "The OMEGA Calibre 1861 was the iconic movement used in the very first Moonwatch. For today’s model, OMEGA has retained the same movement to offer a true sense of authenticity. Due to its rarity, only 2,998 of these collectable watches have been produced."

    I hate to nitpack Omega but... surely that's fluffly marketing BS? The calibre of movement in the first moon watch was the Cal. 321 and whilst I appreciate that the 1861 is an evolution of the 861 which is an evolution of the 321, but it sure isn't the movement which was used in the first moon watch.
    Agreed the c.321 was used in the CK2998. But the first moonwatch (watch on the moon) was c.861 (link):

    1968 was to see the change of the movement from the 321 to the more robust 861 with the launch of the 145.022. This watch is essentially the same as the model currently available in OMEGA retailers.

    1969 was historic for the Speedmaster not only because it was the first watch on the Moon with the Apollo 11 astronauts but because the year also saw the introduction of the all-gold Speedmaster Professional Deluxe and the Mark II.

    But, yes, it is simply marketing speak.

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    Ahh I did wonder if it was the 861 which was first used on the moon... either way, I think we can both agree it wasn't the 1861 which was first used on the moon :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    Ahh I did wonder if it was the 861 which was first used on the moon... either way, I think we can both agree it wasn't the 1861 which was first used on the moon :)
    Chuck Maddox describes it thus (link):

    Nomenclature Change:

    To differentiate earlier gilt movements from Rhodium ones, Omega calls the Rhodium versions c.186x... So the Rhodium version of the c.861 is called the c.1861, the c.863 is called the c.1863, the c.866 is called the c.1866, and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Agreed the c.321 was used in the CK2998. But the first moonwatch (watch on the moon) was c.861 (link):
    1968 was to see the change of the movement from the 321 to the more robust 861 with the launch of the 145.022. This watch is essentially the same as the model currently available in OMEGA retailers.

    1969 was historic for the Speedmaster not only because it was the first watch on the Moon with the Apollo 11 astronauts but because the year also saw the introduction of the all-gold Speedmaster Professional Deluxe and the Mark II.

    But, yes, it is simply marketing speak.
    I don't think that is correct. From what I have read, both Armstrong and Aldrin were wearing 105.012 models, with the 321 movement. Armstrong left his watch in the command module, and hence the first moonwatch was Aldrin's, a 321. It seems that most of the watches worn on the moon were 321 not 861.

    It's true that '68 was the year of transition from 321 to 861, and that a year later the moon landing took place, but they were not wearing the latest models. So nothing in the facts above is incorrect, but the assumption that because the moon landings were after the production switch from 321 to 861, that the watches were 861 powered, is incorrect.

    It does however make Omega's latest statement incorrect, the 1861 (even as a derivation of the 861) was not the movement in the first watches on the moon.

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    Agreed. Maddox suggests that is was (just) possible that a 861 movement made it to the moon on the later missions but that there is no definitive proof and that the models taken aboard Apollo 11 were almost certainly 321 movements, based on the NASA purchasing documentation. As noted above, this is all a bit irrelevant since Omega are claiming that 1861 is the original Moonwatch movement which is clearly nonsense since it started being fitted in the 90s I think. Marketing BS at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamingdave View Post
    I don't think that is correct. From what I have read, both Armstrong and Aldrin were wearing 105.012 models, with the 321 movement. Armstrong left his watch in the command module, and hence the first moonwatch was Aldrin's, a 321. It seems that most of the watches worn on the moon were 321 not 861.

    It's true that '68 was the year of transition from 321 to 861, and that a year later the moon landing took place, but they were not wearing the latest models. So nothing in the facts above is incorrect, but the assumption that because the moon landings were after the production switch from 321 to 861, that the watches were 861 powered, is incorrect.

    It does however make Omega's latest statement incorrect, the 1861 (even as a derivation of the 861) was not the movement in the first watches on the moon.
    Yes...I should have known better than to trust Omega's publicity...sorry about that. I was due to go out, otherwise I might first have checked:

    Last edited by PickleB; 18th March 2016 at 13:13.

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    Not a massive fan of many, but I do like the Blue moonphase Speedy.



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