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    Recommend me a simple watch please

    Hello gents,

    I kept looking high and low for quite a while now for a...

    - hand-wind
    - stainless steel
    - 37-38mm X 9-10mm
    - no date
    - central or small second hand
    - classic shape (no tonneau or square, etc)
    - up to say 2000-2500 pounds

    ... kind of a watch. There are a few interesting contenders such as Eddie's PRS29A or some of the Nomos variety, but actually not that many.

    I've asked similar questions before, the difference now is that I came to realize that simplicity is rather costly, hence the higher pricing interval.

    This being said, do please let me know what your suggestions would be.

    Many thanks,
    Christian

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    Manual winders tend to come in the marine/deck watch style, and satisfy your criteria in all but the size you would like, mostly 42mm, although the Steinhart is 44mm. I have to say that I'm really enjoying my Archimede that I bought from SC several months ago. Perhaps the Stowa Partitio may fit the bill, comes in black too. https://www.stowa.de/lshop,showdetai...partition,.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    Manual winders tend to come in the marine/deck watch style, and satisfy your criteria in all but the size you would like, mostly 42mm, although the Steinhart is 44mm. I have to say that I'm really enjoying my Archimede that I bought from SC several months ago. Perhaps the Stowa Partitio may fit the bill, comes in black too. https://www.stowa.de/lshop,showdetai...partition,.htm
    True, at 42-44mm there're plenty of interesting Unitas based watches, but I'm after something rather more classic size-wise. My largest watch (except the G-Shocks) is a 43mm Breitling 01 and that's about the limit for me.

    Also, thanks for the Stowa recommendation. It is a cool watch and I'd like it, except that for some subjective reason I can't stand seconds hands with no 'tail' (counterbalance or what's it called). Other then that, it would an interesting option.

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    Btw, the closest so far is (based on a recommendation from a previous thread) the Hentschel Hafenmeister: http://hentschel-hamburg.de/en/model...enmeister.html

    I'm not completely happy with the shape of the lugs, but other than that, that's the type of a watch I'd consider.

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    ^

    Nomos is fantastic and they have a few models that perfectly suit your criteria; I don't think you'll find anything better.

    Other than that, older manual-wind Rolex are great if you're not dead-set on the 37-38 mm thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belligero View Post
    ^

    Nomos is fantastic and they have a few models that perfectly suit your criteria; I don't think you'll find anything better.
    Nomos are good, some are very good looking too. Myself, I went with a speedmaster :)

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    I can't find a decent image to link to (other than the SC post where I bought mine) but something like an Ollech & Wajs 2801?

    Here is a link to the post on SC from where I bought mine: http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=ollech

    Seems to tick all your boxes but might be a bit pedestrian compared to the budget you have in mind.

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    What about a Grand Seiko hand wind, but there aren't many about. I think the SBGW001 is one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belligero View Post
    ^

    Nomos is fantastic and they have a few models that perfectly suit your criteria; I don't think you'll find anything better.

    Other than that, older manual-wind Rolex are great if you're not dead-set on the 37-38 mm thing.
    Had a couple of Tangente models and both the Club models (light and dark) and altought certainly beautiful, I just didn't connect. Further on, I realized that the Bauhaus style is not for me (so Stowa Antea KS is out too).

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob777 View Post
    I can't find a decent image to link to (other than the SC post where I bought mine) but something like an Ollech & Wajs 2801?

    Here is a link to the post on SC from where I bought mine: http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=ollech

    Seems to tick all your boxes but might be a bit pedestrian compared to the budget you have in mind.
    Ahem, pedestrian is indeed an inspired description :) I am searching for something more classic and a tad more refined/ less tool-like.

    Quote Originally Posted by dowsing View Post
    What about a Grand Seiko hand wind, but there aren't many about. I think the SBGW001 is one.
    Had a SBGW001 and it is indeed a lovely watch that meets the description. If it would have had the Zaratsu polished hands of the SBGR061 (which I own since a couple of months and is as of now THE dress watch for me) and, possibly, would have been just a couple of mm thinner, it would have been an excellent contender.

    Many thanks for the suggestions, please do keep them coming.

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    Something from Austria perhaps? 38.5mm, 7mm thick, hand wound.

    http://www.habring2.com/en/collection/felix

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB9yeti View Post
    Something from Austria perhaps? 38.5mm, 7mm thick, hand wound.

    http://www.habring2.com/en/collection/felix
    That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, many thanks! I did some quick research and it costs about 4500 EUR/ 3200 GBP, which for a mostly manufactured watch is extremely good... Will have to do some more research, but it looks promising.

    Still, please do let me hear your further suggestions.

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooster View Post
    That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, many thanks! I did some quick research and it costs about 4500 EUR/ 3200 GBP, which for a mostly manufactured watch is extremely good... Will have to do some more research, but it looks promising.

    Still, please do let me hear your further suggestions.

    Cheers,
    Christian
    I was on a very similar quest myself (only on a smaller budget) and came across the Habring Felix. It ticks all the boxes but the price puts it out of reach for me. It's lovely and a great size with a beautiful movement.

    I finally settled on a Nomos Tangente Sport which I bought off another member. It actually wasn't a model I had considered (mainly been looking at an Orion or regular Tangente) but I'm glad I went for it. Hasn't been off my wrist since it arrived.

    Have you seen a Montblanc Ultra Slim in 'the flesh' yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    I was on a very similar quest myself (only on a smaller budget) and came across the Habring Felix. It ticks all the boxes but the price puts it out of reach for me. It's lovely and a great size with a beautiful movement.

    I finally settled on a Nomos Tangente Sport which I bought off another member. It actually wasn't a model I had considered (mainly been looking at an Orion or regular Tangente) but I'm glad I went for it. Hasn't been off my wrist since it arrived.

    Have you seen a Monblanc Ultra Slim in 'the flesh' yet?
    That's the thing, I started with a much lower budget in mind, but then in turns out that as with plenty of other things nowadays, this is also upside-down: simple, classic watches are almost exclusively in the upper 4 figures (and as such rarely made in stainless steel).

    I had a few years ago the Tangente Sport, and I enjoyed its somewhat more consistent presence. But then the ugly 'no Bauhaus for me' bias raised its head so I flipped it.

    As for the Montblanc, it does sound like a very interesting proposition, but from the pics it looks maybe a bit too sterile and also the hands seem to be too short. But yes, I want to see it in 3D, maybe my concerns are not real after all.

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooster View Post
    [...]As for the Montblanc, it does sound like a very interesting proposition, but from the pics it looks maybe a bit too sterile and also the hands seem to be too short. But yes, I want to see it in 3D, maybe my concerns are not real after all.[...]
    I find the Montblanc to be a badly-drawn watch, too. Arial is always a giveaway that it's the work of a non-professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooster View Post
    ...........it costs about 4500 EUR/ 3200 GBP, which for a mostly manufactured watch is extremely good...
    €50 ...



    http://www.good-stuffs.com/Classic-S...ssue_p_85.html

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    SBGW035 (or SBGW031 if you prefer leather) .

    One of my (many) grails. You can find one around the £2k mark or slighly less if you shop around Rakuten and others, or ask Seiya for a quote.

    I honestly can't think of anything better made near this price. Very similar with the SBGW033 limited edition piece that fetches twice as much.

    As for the bracelet, some find it a bit out of place, I for one think it's rather nice although if/when I get it myself I will for sure cough up for at least a croc strap for it as I'm sure it will look stunning with it.

    If you're after fancy finished movement though, this is far from it.











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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooster View Post
    Had ??? a SBGW001 and it is indeed a lovely watch that meets the description. If it would have had the Zaratsu polished hands of the SBGR061 (which I own since a couple of months and is as of now THE dress watch for me) and, possibly, would have been just a couple of mm thinner, it would have been an excellent contender.

    Many thanks for the suggestions, please do keep them coming.

    Cheers,
    Christian
    Never mind, I saw this post...You had, as in past tense, the SBGW001, my other and grail-er or grails and you flipped it?!! I hate you!

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    Quote function isnt working for me this evening or I would have referenced Dappers post above

    Hardly likely to fit the bill but a good stocking filler / bit of fun on a similar theme

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...i-1955-Reissue

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    Something from Stowa?

    They do have some which match your requirements I think:

    https://www.stowa.de/lshop,showdetai...partition,.htm

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    We're all assuming a new watch, though you didn't actually say it. You could save yourself a small fortune with something vintage like this:



    Or indeed some 50s sub-second Omegas that are in the right size range, or JLCs.

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    Apologies for the absence gents, too much work and not enough time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Quote function isnt working for me this evening or I would have referenced Dappers post above

    Hardly likely to fit the bill but a good stocking filler / bit of fun on a similar theme

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...i-1955-Reissue
    Well, yes, but... Ahem. I think I'd rather look for something more 'cote de Geneve'-esque :D

    Quote Originally Posted by josep View Post
    Something from Stowa?

    They do have some which match your requirements I think:

    https://www.stowa.de/lshop,showdetai...partition,.htm
    As said, nice option, I have however a pet peeve with that particular shape of the seconds hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    We're all assuming a new watch, though you didn't actually say it. You could save yourself a small fortune with something vintage like this:



    Or indeed some 50s sub-second Omegas that are in the right size range, or JLCs.
    I have a couple of lovely vintage watches (an 18k Zenith and UG Polerouter), but for now I'm rather interested in a more recent, say post-2000 watch. I don't exclude however getting myself one of them oldies...


    So anyway, is there any chance for any further recommendation?

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan83bz View Post
    Never mind, I saw this post...You had, as in past tense, the SBGW001, my other and grail-er or grails and you flipped it?!! I hate you!
    Well... after craving for it for a few years (after reading that brilliant review on watchprosite), I finally got one. And it did not work for me. This whole thing is crazy after all, so I guess I'll just go for this explanation. But this should not keep you at all from hunting for one...

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    I know it's about half your budget, but if I were in your position, I'd be buying a Nomos Club 36mm and pocketing the rest.

    Edit: just noticed, you've already owned one in the past. Sorry.
    Last edited by seikokiller; 26th November 2015 at 21:14.

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    Dornblüth 99.0/99.1 perhaps? Should fit the price range, maybe a tad large. Although they do wear rather "conservative".

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    1940's Vintage Omega with a little patina and fade to dial perhaps,and have loadsa money left....

    This for £165











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    1940's Vintage Omega with a little patina and fade to dial perhaps,and have loadsa money left....

    This for £165









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    Quote Originally Posted by seikokiller View Post
    I know it's about half your budget, but if I were in your position, I'd be buying a Nomos Club 36mm and pocketing the rest.

    Edit: just noticed, you've already owned one in the past. Sorry.
    Very, very well made watches, but I think in the end the all-too-long lugs did for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by drury View Post
    Dornblüth 99.0/99.1 perhaps? Should fit the price range, maybe a tad large. Although they do wear rather "conservative".
    42 mm and dress watch does not really rhyme for me :) I noticed they also have a 38.5mm model, but it's a manufacture movement and as such the price is way higher.

    Quote Originally Posted by P9CLY View Post
    1940's Vintage Omega with a little patina and fade to dial perhaps,and have loadsa money left....

    This for £165
    That's certainly lovely! And connected to this, I came to the conclusion that it's futile to search in today's world for these kinds of watches. There are a very few models and most of them horribly expensive. So there it goes - I'll probably enjoy collecting vintage from now on.

    Still, many thanks for all suggestions. Should there be any further, do please let me know.

    Cheers,
    Christian

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    Cheap but simple and great, Smiths PRS27 or PRS25.

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