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    Is TVR on the way back?

    This will make a lot of people very happy:

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ar-family-2017

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    That looks well smart,I've always liked tvrs,sadly never owned one ,maybe one day

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    I would really like to think so, the Russian kid didn't have a clue.

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    lets hope they are more reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    I would really like to think so, the Russian kid didn't have a clue.
    My good friend Roger worked ( he still does now and again) for Nikolai Smolensk and it one point (for a short period) he actually owned the TVR company.

    Boy oh boy could i tell you some stories :D

    Hordes of the old TVR stuff is locked away in various industrial units in germany. Just piled up, no cataloging or orderly storing, just random crates and boxes all willy nilly.

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    Would be great to see them back. Loved my Chimaera despite the significant repair bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    This will make a lot of people very happy:

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ar-family-2017

    Very interesting. I have had several TVRs in the past.

    The key will be to keep prices sensible, and the cars rawness undiluted.

    i just hope they do the right thing and make them in Blackpool.

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    I would love to see them back. Good luck to them

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    Looks good - but I have a feeling the prices will be on another level.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    The Tuscan was the only car I've ever driven that wasn't capable of going as fast as it was capable of going. I still have a carbon fibre splitter in storage with the lovely scrape marks where the bolts securing it sheared off. For some reason TVR didn't let me have the sump, radiator and all four wheels that were also all replaced.

    I hope it succeeds and they make a decent job of it.

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    I've owned 2 TVRs: a V8S and a Griffith 500. Both were superb and the Griffith was seriously quick. Despite all the talk of TVR unreliability I had only one issue in all that time that ever stopped me getting from A to B - a poor Earth on the Griffith. Yes, some of the trim, glove box latches and other parts certainly could have been better and the less said about the electtrics behind the passenger footwell in the Griffith the better but I never considered them unreliable.

    I so hope the new owner makes a go of it. I don't quite understand the new Cosworth engine as this will just add to costs when the Chevy LS series is available, very powerful, tuneable and parts are cheap.

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    If it is on the way back it'll be on the back of a low loader
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblivion View Post
    lets hope they are more reliable.
    I know of one that should be more reliable than most.......


    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=Drill
    F.T.F.A.

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    Fingers crossed that this get off the ground.
    Adding Gordon Murray and his iStream processes seems like a good move.
    Prices will need to be kept sensible.
    With Cosworth building the engine & drive train it should be pretty good.
    Loved my old S3.

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    I had a Griff and a Tuscan... New one looks great, if a little pricey....

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    That sounds like a sensible group who could get it off the ground. Fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    i just hope they do the right thing and make them in Blackpool.
    From the article, it sounds like it's most likely going to be in Surrey somewhere.

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    Would be nice to hear that V8 rumble again.... Great cars from yesteryear...

    I remeber the first ever top gear line up, all sorts of exotics....the TVR won followed by the 911 turbo I believe.... This even went on to what we now call th VMAX 200 if I'm not mistaken... Anyway I'm rambling.

    Yes...bring Trevor back

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblivion View Post
    lets hope they are more reliable.
    A very common myth that is completely untrue these days.

    Its a bit of a standing joke in the TVR community that TVR built them and we finish them, but I've had a 1992 Griffith 4.3 for 10 years and it been so unreliable it once had a clutch failure as I landed on the drive.

    The trouble was the head-in-the-sand attitude TVR had to the problems they created when cutting costs on their new in-house Speed 6 engine. This gained them a reputation for being unreliable and you'll see people quoting engine rebuilds at ridiculously low mileages, but by and large these issues have been engineered out by support companies and its even possible to get a Speed6 engine rebuilt with a 100k mile warranty.

    Anyway, back on topic.
    I'm afraid the whole Smolenski saga has made me a bit jaded so I'll only believe TVR are back up and running when I see something with my own eyes, but I certainly wish Les Edgar all the best.

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    It will be great if TVR can successfully re-establish themselves on the map of current UK motor manufacturers. Whilst Les Edgar and his TVRM co-investors have caused divisions amongst the ranks of those independent specialist garages who’ve done so much in keeping the brand on Britain’s roads this past decade, it now appears that they may actually have a half decent plan vs. launching new models.

    However this will be a difficult market to crack. Even at TVR’s peak during Peter Wheeler’s reign they really struggled against competition from the likes of Porsche with the Boxter etc. Those drivers today who actually have £60k+ available to spend on a new sports car may choose to play it safe with an F-type or the like. Others with only half that sort of cash have cars like the Golf Type R or 5litre Mustang on tap – all with still very decent levels of performance.

    Having owned TVRs for the past 20yrs (and still having two of them which get regular use all year round), I really hope that this is something that will come to fruition and be a real success. However, like others are saying - I think I’ll keep my expectations in check until I see that first new model with my own eyes.

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    I've owned 2 Tuscans and a Griff and love TVRs, already emailed them and registered interest! Would be very keen for a new one and with that line up of people here's hoping it goes ahead!

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    Never owned one, but driven a couple and ended up having to push both....

    Can't help but be interested in this, but forgiveness only goes so far - let's hope they can get it right.

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    I think times have changed, in the TVR era, if you wanted a good looking fast sports car, the TVR was a seductive choice. Now it will be up against the F type, merc gt, the new Maserati et al. Having been a TVR owner for years, I would not go back. For me, the f type is as beautiful as any TVR with brilliant engines (not made of chocolate like the speed 6) and most importantly reliability. I wish them success as I still have a soft spot for them but I will not be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I think times have changed, in the TVR era, if you wanted a good looking fast sports car, the TVR was a seductive choice. Now it will be up against the F type, merc gt, the new Maserati et al. Having been a TVR owner for years, I would not go back. For me, the f type is as beautiful as any TVR with brilliant engines (not made of chocolate like the speed 6) and most importantly reliability. I wish them success as I still have a soft spot for them but I will not be back.
    +1 especially re the F-Type... one day.

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    Enjoyed my 5ltr Chimaera. It would be good to see them back in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I think times have changed, in the TVR era, if you wanted a good looking fast sports car, the TVR was a seductive choice. Now it will be up against the F type, merc gt, the new Maserati et al. Having been a TVR owner for years, I would not go back. For me, the f type is as beautiful as any TVR with brilliant engines (not made of chocolate like the speed 6) and most importantly reliability. I wish them success as I still have a soft spot for them but I will not be back.
    +1 agree with this...the competition has moved on so much since they were last on the scene, playing catch up would be an understatement. The dominece of the VAG group, who are at the top of there game for sure, leaves little room for rebirth. Whilst they were extreme in their day, to achieve that now, and I hope they do, I personally think would prove very difficult. Take a look at what lamborghini are now doing for example, how could they compete with that?
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    Is TVR on the way back?

    I had a TVR TAIMAR which was a 1978 3ltr ford v6 with various parts from other manufacturers. I ran it as a daily driver for about six years and took it to France for a driving holiday and apart from having no heater it was reliable.
    It was about 1988-1994 ish and I have fond memories of it, I sold it to a chap called Mike Bigland who turned out to be the technical director at the factory in the 1970s developing the chassis for the v6 3000M and TAIMAR!
    He went on to restore the car and I have been told it's now the best example of its type in the world!
    Pic of the wife and my little girl and my MG BGT (life was better then when i could own two sports cars a wife baby and a house)
    Last edited by dizz; 7th June 2015 at 10:53.

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    I encountered two Tuscans on one short journey across town this afternoon.

    They both looked and sounded amazing, but I can't look at them without wondering whether they'll make it to wherever they're heading.

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    I seriously doubt that any new TVR would maintain the spirit and personality of the old TVRs. They may turn out to be spectacular cars but you may as well call them Murrays or something different. I can't see them being very affordable either, which means they will have to be VERY good to compete. An interesting idea nevertheless.

    I used to work with the guy who was the photographer for TVR in their very early days of club racing and Ford bits everywhere. Those were the days!

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    Really hope it works out for them although it'll be tough as the market has moved on a lot since the good old days of the Griff and the Chimaera.
    Back then you needed Ferrari money to go as fast but now hot hatchbacks have 300bhp.
    As a Chimaera driver for the last 16 years I'm watching with interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raceboy View Post
    Back then you needed Ferrari money to go as fast but now hot hatchbacks have 300bhp.
    And a Mini 228 bhp. Also DTC, DSC, ABS, EDLC etc....

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    There is no way that if this goes ahead they are going to be in direct competition with the likes of Porsche, Jaguar, Lamborghini, Ferrari etc depending on how they price it. TVRs may have competed with Porsche once when there were few Porsche dealerships and the range consisted of the 911 or the 911 in a few other colours.

    They won't even be in competition with the smaller manufacturers like Lotus or McLaren at the upper level. I see it being more likely to be a Noble. A car built by boffins for petrolheads. Mr company director that made a few quid and wants to treat himself and show off to the neighbours is NEVER going to buy a new TVR over a 991.

    They need to position this properly to stand even the slightest chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    This will make a lot of people very happy
    Yes, garages.

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    My TVR has been cheaper to run, more fun, and faster than the Porsche I also owned, over 16 years it's had some scary bills, but only broke down once, the Boxster on the other hand was a money pit, finally ending in a conrod deciding it wanted to see what the outside world looked like.
    Currently looking to replace the Chimaera with a Tamora, and the Porsche has been replaced with a Civic that is not much slower, unfortunately I don't have 'new car' money or I'd have my name down.

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