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    The Rolex (GMT) Master

    I have always had a soft-spot for the GMT Master (II) because my old man has worn a GMT Master Pepsi since being gifted it by his first wife in 1967. This was unfortunately lost overboard on one of his sailing trips sometime in 2001. After much wrangling the insurance company replaced it with a 1967 model and even upgraded the clasp (to the flip-over clasp) to prevent another sailing accident.

    I have gone somewhat cold on the whole watch front recently but still hanker after a Coke or Pepsi. Can I see yours please (ooo er)?

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    Certainly! Here's mine.


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    Not, a II, but still...


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    Quick phone shot on the way to work.

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    I bought mine new at a jeweller's in Newcastle in July 1986, for the princely sum of £698. It's one of the first gloss dial 16750s, and doesn't feature the word "DATE" after "OYSTER PERPETUAL" on the dial.


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    Here's mine. Probably the most comfortable watch I've ever owned :-)


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    here you go

    16710 with tritium, the perfect model for me


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    66 GMT 1675, probably close to your dads old watch!

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    Nothing in the current Rolex stable would tempt me away from this...


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    16710 lug holes with SEL's

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    my 16710,
    With the pepsi/jubilee it's almost a homage to my dad's trusty 1675 which has been battered around the world in all environments for the past 40+ years.
    (i've tried swapping with him, ain't gonna happen!)




    I do like a coke though (feels correct for a GMTII), and a spare bezel makes the transformation even quicker!.


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    Gorgeous watches these.

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    Exactly what I am looking at purchasing next, great pictures chaps

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    66 GMT 1675, probably close to your dads old watch!
    I'm loving the no-cyclops look here!

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    Here's mine:



    One for the bezel-alignment OCD brigade.

    Have one with the bezel aligned properly:


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    Quote Originally Posted by workahol View Post
    I'm loving the no-cyclops look here!
    I do like Rolex and am slowly saving for a Seadweller because I'm not a cyclops fan I thmk thats why I want a Seadweller rather than a sub... But always loved the GMT in any guise but Pepsi especially.....so this in non cyclops and Pepsi is pretty much perfect ...

    Very nice...

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    Definitely my next purchase, but finding it very difficult to decide which one to go for.

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    Do the root beer variants get much love? They seem very rare, were they made in less numbers? Beautiful watches these

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    Having looked at the price of new ceramic Master GMT II's, I see that the black version can be obtained with a discount from grey dealers (approx 10%), but the BLNR only available at full list price.

    I'm assuming it's because the BLNR is still a relatively new release and its just a case of supply/demand.

    Would anybody hazard a guess as to when the BLNR might be available at a discount?

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    My 69' 1675- great watches


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwellwd View Post
    Do the root beer variants get much love? They seem very rare, were they made in less numbers? Beautiful watches these
    Funnily enough the latest Watchfinder email had one of these featured. Can't make my mind up about them. I like the dial, but not so sure on the bezel..

    http://watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/GMT%2...l&utm_content=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisance Value View Post
    Funnily enough the latest Watchfinder email had one of these featured. Can't make my mind up about them. I like the dial, but not so sure on the bezel..

    http://watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/GMT%2...l&utm_content=

    So long as the bezel is bi-coloured, I'm happy.

    A few years ago I was toying with one but the only ones around were Masters, not the Master II which I wanted. As this is a tartier model I would want it on the jubilee rather than oyster bracelet. They are not for everyone but if you like them, go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backward point View Post
    Did you ask Tony to help with that pic?

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    I bought this one brand new at an AD on Dec 31, 1980. Serial number dates it to 1977.




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    Quote Originally Posted by .olli. View Post
    Did you ask Tony to help with that pic?

    I'll have you know that I spent ages getting the lights just right.


    Then I turned them all off.






    (Actually, the photo was taken with the watch on the roof of my S2000. I would have thought that you, of all people, would have spotted that!)

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    My 16750 from the 80s, matte dial never fails to put a smile on my face

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    Not a GMTII but close enough

    This is my GMT 16700 (1997).

    Sometimes I think the Pepsi is a bit bling, but not so much that it isn't my go to watch.

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    Ooft, this thread just makes you want to pop out and buy a GMT. Very jealous.
    Last edited by leiper; 19th April 2015 at 10:52. Reason: Finger trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by leiper View Post
    Ooft, this thread just makes you want to pop out and buy a GMT. Very jealous.
    Me to, that SubC of mine is getting part-ex'd as soon as i get home for either a blue/black or the red/black or just plain black bezel. Very envious...

    My fav's in order.

    1, 116710BLNR.


    2, 16710 Coke.


    3, 116710LN
    Last edited by Martylaa; 20th April 2015 at 11:23.

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    GMT experts, a question

    I am looking for a GMTII with a Tritium dial, but also with a flip lock clasp on an Oyster bracelet. Did they ever make this watch or would it only be the older style clasp with a tritium dial

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    GMT experts, a question I am looking for a GMTII with a Tritium dial, but also with a flip lock clasp on an Oyster bracelet. Did they ever make this watch or would it only be the older style clasp with a tritium dial Thanks
    Mine is from 97 and is on a flip lock bracelet and 501b end links


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    Thanks for the feedback Thom, lovely looking watch by the way

    I've been looking at may different year watches and there doesn't seem to be any continuity as to what year has what dial, I've seen watches earlier than 97 without the tritium dial, if they do have the dial then they don't have the flip lock clasp

    My attention span in waning on this one, have found some watches on Chrono 24 that look good but in the States so face a hefty VAT bill on import

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    Would a Rolex Glidelock bracelet fit a 16710 GMT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Would a Rolex Glidelock bracelet fit a 16710 GMT?
    According to the rolexforums the 97200 should fit most of the sapphire 40mm watches

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    Quote Originally Posted by endo View Post
    According to the rolexforums the 97200 should fit most of the sapphire 40mm watches
    thank you

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    My two GMTs :


    The 16710 with its Coke insert


    The 16710 with its faded Pepsi insert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    GMT experts, a question

    I am looking for a GMTII with a Tritium dial, but also with a flip lock clasp on an Oyster bracelet. Did they ever make this watch or would it only be the older style clasp with a tritium dial

    Thanks
    GMT11 will all have an oyster lock bracelet. Earlier GMT models will have the regular oyster clasp.

    Useful links for the different models

    http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/gmt-...ref_16710.html
    http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/w...f-the-gmt.html
    http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/watch-info/gmt/

    Rolex clasps have markings which can be useful in ageing the bracelet to the watch.

    http://oysterinfo.de/en/detailinfos/...mern/index.php

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    Thanks Martin, that's very useful

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    I thought the GMT II was the successor to the GMT

    I don't understand how you can have a GMT Master II 16760 like this that's dated 1986

    http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/G...886/item/42438

    Then a GMT Master 16700 dated 1996

    http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/G...339/item/46707

    What am I missing guys ?

    Edit: After extensive reading I understand all the different references now, I definitely want a 1990-1997 Ref: 16710
    Last edited by Vanguard; 20th April 2015 at 16:55.

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    after having many a gmt over the yrs ive settled for one a 1675 late 5mill serial last of em , took me over 2 yrs to get this watch off its long term owner

    had a peachy 16760 full set but went to a good pal on here last summer


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    GMT experts, a question

    I am looking for a GMTII with a Tritium dial, but also with a flip lock clasp on an Oyster bracelet. Did they ever make this watch or would it only be the older style clasp with a tritium dial

    Thanks
    yes 16760 fat lady , I wore one which came with a 93150 submariner flip lock bracelet which were an option on these aswell as the 78360

    16760 is more or less a submariner cased gmt2 , great useable daily pieces but finding a decent one is getting harder ,

    great watches I miss mines , wore it daily for around 3 yrs before my pal pestered me for it .
    mines was full set with everything under the sun .................... sigh ........... :(

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    They said the bezel would make it hard to pair with my clothes. Pah!

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    [QUOTE

    They said the bezel would make it hard to pair with my clothes. Pah![/QUOTE]

    You should have put it on a brown leather strap!!

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    An iconic watch. Endlessly copied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    [QUOTE

    They said the bezel would make it hard to pair with my clothes. Pah!
    You should have put it on a brown leather strap!![/QUOTE]

    Just got a brown leather nato and thought that might suit it.

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    You're all bad people. This is luring me back in searching for a Fat Lady...

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    Come on guys, knock it off…………Please :))

    I am trying to find a beautiful patina pepsi and you are not helping me with all your beautiful ones :)

    keep them coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat30093 View Post
    Come on guys, knock it off…………Please :))

    I am trying to find a beautiful patina pepsi and you are not helping me with all your beautiful ones :)

    keep them coming
    Just to screw you right up here is my 1675 gilt on a brown insert!

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    Simply beautiful :)

    Bob, what year is that from?

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    After reading up a bit more on these, can anyone tell me about why a certain 16710 with a 3186 and the blue Parachrom spring movement is classed as a rare thing?

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