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The ROK grinder is just about what I need. If only it had a motor!
I get that it is a problem for you, I don't get why.Originally Posted by PickleB
I get that sound can wake someone up, not why one should MAKE a problem of it.
I think it making an elephant of a mosquito, a non-problem. It's just a coffee grinder, not a jackhammer.
What do you do when a loud moped passes, or a plane flies over; zap'm with your laser pen?
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It's a noise quality issue. A cheap grinder with a high-pitched motor and thin plastic or sheet metal can emit an extremely piercing and unpleasant sound that's particularly unwelcome first thing in the morning.
Though mopeds with modified exhausts can be similarly irritating, there are stringent noise-level regulations on jets these days for a reason. At least it's avoidable when it comes to grinder selection for those who do notice these things.
Is there really an argument starting over coffee grinders?
There's no reply to that. If you have so little imagination that you don't get why loud noises can be a problem for people other than yourself...I can't help you. Enough said...
It's been done, at least for the king-of-all-manual-grinders HG One:
via dailycoffeenews
Seems like it involves more net effort than simply grinding by hand, though. :P
Personally, I'm more than sorted for an electric grinder at home, so I'd love to complement it with a high-quality non-electricity-dependent unit for use at the beach or the cabin, for example. It would be very nice if it's something that I can also use at work without everyone around me hearing it, too.
Besides the ROK, I'm also considering the following. Both of these (as well as the ROK unit) use 38 mm burr sets, which for a hand cranker is rather —er— burly:
Lido 3 (image via prima coffee)
Knock Hausgrind (image via home-barista)
As either one will make quick and efficient work of a single Aeropress dose, I don't think the extra bulk and noise of the open-chambered ROK is necessary, plus the direct drive grinders are far more compact and much less likely to get damaged during transport. The grind and build quality of both is said to be fantastic; I'm looking forward to getting one of them in my hands soon.
Finally, to add to the discussion on aromatic-compound loss, I came across what may be the definitive word to date on how coffee beans deteriorate after roasting and grinding: Paul Songer — A Question of Freshness
Well worth reading over a good coffee if you're into this stuff. :)
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Thanks for that.
I did a little browsing this morning and have gone off the ROK grinder after reading up on it. However, I did discover OE (thanks for the picture...I didn't realise they were quite that large) and made by knock hand grinders. I was pleased to find that the latter are made in Edinburgh, despite the Germanic names they give their products.
If you do buy one, I'll be interested to hear how you get on.
One thing I am trying is the Ross Droplet Technique (RDT) for eliminating grinder static, as illustrated by ROK:
I've only used it once, so it's probably wishful thinking but I think I saw a difference.
Edit: Thanks too for the link to A Question of Freshness...I'm off to make a coffee and have a read.
Edit2: More reading: What is the Shelf Life of Roasted Coffee? and Water for brewing standard.
Edit3: I'm sticking with the Ross Droplet Technique (see above) for eliminating grinder static. It makes a marked difference with my Hario hand grinder. I'd recommend it to anyone grinding weighed batches of beans. I don't suppose it can help if you keep a hopper filled and grind on demand, in fact keeping beans damp probably isn't a good idea.
Last edited by PickleB; 20th March 2016 at 15:46.
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My pleasure.
As it turns out, I ended up going on a bit of a spree, and ordering two manual grinders, plus a fresh burr set for the Mini-E.
The first one is a mini ceramic-burr mill that comes with a fitting to grind straight into an Aeropress. It's a gift for a brother of mine who also likes his coffee — shhh! I checked out the standard version during last month's London visit and it seemed quite solid for the money, so I'll let you know how this one does:
image credit: coffeehit
The original burr plates in the Mazzer are probably a bit tired after at least five years of service, so I went with the 33M set from the next model up. They share the same 64 mm diameter, but are cut differently, which is said to noticeably speed things up:
image credit: mazzer
Looking forward to seeing whether it works as well as the coffee forum people claim.
Finally, I decided on the Lido 3, as it seemed like the best of the bunch for my intended use, and there's the small practical snag of Knock's grinders being essentially impossible to buy. The L3's 48 mm Swiss burr set is as good as it currently gets in a reasonably-mobile manual unit and should make short work of turning beans into consistent grinds.
I prefer the less-lightsabre-ey appearance of the wood-bodied Feldgrind/Hausgrind — and 38-mm-burr Commandante, to add yet another high-quality manual-mill option — but I get the impression that the latest Lido has the best day-to-day usability, and the consensus seems to be that it's the reigning champ among anything that's realistically portable for grind quality. From what I've seen so far, it's probably more than good enough to be the main non-espresso grinder (it absolutely rips through beans at mid-range settings without too much apparent difficulty and has zero retention) and the Mazzer can stay on full-time fine-grind duty.
I find it looks good in a sort of industrial way, too:
image credit: espressounplugged
I'll update once the new toys arrive. :D
Last edited by Belligero; 4th March 2016 at 17:16.
From a looks perspective, that is a cracker.I find it looks good in a sort of industrial way, too:
image credit: espressounplugged
I'll update once the new toys arrive. :D
How are they, please?
Briefly: two out of three ain't bad.
The Rhinowares is a dud, as it turns out; it's a typical Chinese-made piece of crap. The grind quality sucks, it's annoyingly slow, and it requires high operating effort. So the same as any other mini-mill, really. It's barely even worth carrying for occasional travel use, as the grinds are so inconsistent. You can easily feel and see the difference compared to a good grinder when using an Aeropress; it's harder to push due to all the fines clogging the filter, but there are still huge chunks in the puck. Might as well get a Porlex mill if you're OK with crappy results, as it's similar in price and output, but at is least made in Japan.
The Lido 3, on the other hand, is completely brilliant, and I'd have no problem having it as my main grinder for daily use. In fact, I think it's much preferable to any electric unit near its price due to the excellent manufacturing standard, superb grind quality, ease of operation, compactness and quietness. There isn't even a speed penalty compared to a typical consumer-grade electric grinder. It's an unmitigated pleasure to use, and I'd possibly go out on a limb and say that it's the brew grinder to have, period — at least for my preferences.
Finally, installing the SJ burr set in a Mini-E is fantastic — faster and fluffier espresso grinds with zero downside. Highly recommended.
Last edited by Belligero; 13th June 2016 at 15:10.
How long does it take to grind enough beans for a double espresso with the Lido?
in defence of the rhino you do get what you pay for, its way better than a hario skerton which wobbles around the shaft and changes grind setting as you turn the handle and the shaft moves in an eccentric path as its not supported properly. the handle is a much better design on the rhino compared to a porlex mini.
the Lido is a lovely piece of kit but its 3x the price.
this new offering from Baratza looks promising, it may replace my Mahlkonig
http://dailycoffeenews.com/2016/04/0...rule-them-all/
I used the Hario hand-grinder for a while, but my laziness prompted me to go electric. The Delonghi burr grinder I got was £40 and has been working impeccably for ages now. Generally well reviewed, and one of the smallest grinders on the market which is nice.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeLonghi-KG.../dp/B002OHDBQC
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
From experience the best allround coffee grinder for the money is the Graef CM 80 / 800
Fair enough, but I still found that the Rhino to be a very deficient unit. Though there's a token attempt at stabilizing its burr set with a flimsy-looking plastic upper bushing, the rotating shaft is still unsupported at the bottom end, so the grind quality just isn't anywhere near consistent. It's essentially no different than a pepper grinder.
I get the feeling that the Lido will last a lifetime, whereas I'd be surprised if the Rhino would withstand half a year of regular use. Too many moving parts are cheap injection-moulded plastic with a weak design, unfortunately.
So although it's substantially cheaper, I think the Rhinowares product offers much less value for money than the Lido, which is a more-than-adequate replacement for any countertop electric unit available in grind quality, is effective/efficient enough that speed and effort just aren't an issue for home use, and is likely far superior in reliability and longevity to anything short of professional-grade among electric grinders. I genuinely find that it's comparable to the commercial options from specialists such as Mazzer or Macap for the grind consistency. Those big Swiss-produced conical burrs are no joke. :D
Better to get something that works properly in the first place, I think. As with many things, the quality option is cheaper in the long run.
Last edited by Belligero; 16th June 2016 at 14:58.
"I get the feeling that the Lido will last a lifetime, whereas I'd be surprised if the Rhino would withstand half a year of regular use. Too many moving parts are cheap injection-moulded plastic with a weak design, unfortunately. "
The girlfriend has used hers every day for the last year and a half without issue. I don't think she's as into coffee as much as I am so spending £50 on a grinder/filter cone/decent bag of beans was a good place to start. Maybe she will see the value of a £150 grinder in a few years if the Rhino breaks or wears out? Maybe she will get another one?
"Better to get something that works properly in the first place, I think. As with many things, the quality option is cheaper in the long run."
That's what I told her when she went to buy a Tassimo or Cloony cyst machine...
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True; fresh-ground beans are still much better than pre-.
Glad to hear that yours is working well. In my case, the plastic retaining sleeve on the handle breaking off on the very first use was a bit of a turnoff, though it didn't affect the functionality much. Also, it's the compact version, so perhaps there are differences from the regular mill.
The important thing is that you're making real coffee, after which there's no going back. If the Rhino eventually fails, it'll be a good excuse to go for a deluxe version. :D
I too fancied the Knock Hausgrind and spent several months watching their site, twitter and facebook pages without any luck. I even emailed them to express my interest...and got no reply.
My Lido 3 arrived today and a very nice piece of kit it is too. However, I was very disconcerted to find that the adjustment ring would only make half a turn (8 marks) rather than the 2½ it is supposed to turn through. A quick trip to the net and I discovered this isn't uncommon:
"I began to adjust the rings and noticed that my adjustment ring would only rotate a half rotation (zero mark to 8 notches), regardless of how loose the locking ring was - almost as if the threads were getting stuck." (Link)
However, on that same page I read:
"I just got one and totally had the same problem with mine. It only moved from 0-8, the burrs were super smashed together. The good thing is I had waited so long I had watched Doug's realigning the burrs video a couple times waiting for the grinder. So I did nothing with the top screw, and followed his technique. It was much better after, but I had to push the handle/upper part up and down against the hopper, and then I could see the burrs adjusting up and down looking from below as I turned. Now after having put some beans through it things are smooth, the grind seems consistent and the zero is stable. I've had it now a week and it's been an eye opener for me in terms of what coffee can be."
The videos in question show the Lido 2 but apply equally to the Lido 3:
A few minutes with the tool provided...and it's now fine. I took off the safety washer and the adjustment ring before simply loosening the bottom four screws, whereupon the handle/shaft could be used to push the centre burr about 1 cm clear of the outer burr. This freed up the mechanism and allowed the shaft and bearings to be aligned as in the video. Tighten up carefully, reassemble the ring and I'm good to go.
Not shown in the video are two nylon rings/washers...one on the shaft at the bottom bearing and one under the adjustment ring. Don't loose them!
Not quite what I'd expect from a new bit of kit, but hopefully I'm now sorted for a good while and won't spend so long grinding away as with my Hario mini!
Further to the above (as they say), from LIDO Operation Manuals:
Had a manual one for about a week before I gave in and coughed up for an iberital mc2, very happy with it. The manual one is now coming camping with an aeropress!
Yes, the perpetually-sold-out Knock seems excellent (as does the similar Commandante) and those wood-bodied mills look beautiful. But for me, the Lido leaves nothing to be desired, and I feel that its quality and usability justify the price to an extent that very few products manage to achieve. All these options have large, high-grade conical burrs that are properly stabilized, so I'm sure anyone would be satisfied with one of them.
In general, these big-bore manual mills are a great development. If you're buying specialty-grade beans, I think it's worth having a no-excuses grinder, and this is not only among the least-expensive ways to get professional-level grind quality, but it's also arguably the best-suited for non-commercial use. I prefer the low noise, portability and compactness of a hand-cranker to the 10+ kg of metal on the countertop it takes to get comparable durability, output and consistency from an electric mill. Add a digital scale and an Aeropress/pourover/vac pot, and you can get a fully world-class coffee setup for non-espresso brewing under £200; hot water and good beans are all you need apart from that.
Anyway, I hope that you're as happy with the Lido as I am! Since it arrived, mine's been getting more use than the Mazzer, as I don't make espresso every day. It's great to have separate dedicated and dialed-in grinders for espresso and non-espresso use, instead of having to make a coarse adjustment and clear the chute when switching brew methods.
Quick tip: it's a true zero-retention grinder if you put a few drops of water or a light spritz onto the beans immediately before grinding; this completely kills the static, so even chaff drops straight into the catcher. Doing so makes it essentially unbeatable as a precise single-dose grinder. Really, I wouldn't have believed how much of a difference it makes — especially on a dry day — without seeing it for myself. And the water drop/spray trick is effective when single-dosing with any grinder, including electric ones. :D
Yes, I couldn't be more happy with my new grinder. As you say, less space, less hassle and a good result, even in a power cut. I see too you have adopted the Ross Droplet Technique; see #107. I've amended my routine very slightly; beans are now weighed in an espresso cup (25 g to 30 g depending upon what I'm making), a drop of water goes on and they are decanted into the grinder. That way I don't leave water on my grinder as it (just) might trickle down to the steel burrs. With my ceramic grinder I could weigh the beans in the grinder and add water without using the cup.
Setting / weight (g) / time (secs)
8 / 30 / 45
6 / 30 / 50
6 / 25 / 40
A Lido has 16 markings per turn, so 0 = finest, them up through 8, ½ a turn, 16, a whole turn, to 40, 2½ turns, very coarse.
Last edited by PickleB; 22nd June 2016 at 12:52.
Ah yes; I thought it might have been mentioned somewhere here before! :P
Still amazed at how well the trick works, though. A further advantage to RDT with a manual grinder is that it makes for a very clean portable setup. As anyone who's transported a conventional-design electric grinder knows, they tend to make a real mess when moved, regardless how much you try to get the trapped grounds out beforehand.
Having been through a long and expensive coffee journey, and i'm back almost where i started.
Ibertial MC2 grinder set for a one cup dose each press, Lavaza Rossa beans (20% off as one of my Waitrose pick your own offers), 3 sizes of Bialetti Moka pot
and a Rommelsbacher RK501 mini hob for fine control of the timings.
Get this setup right, as practice allows you to, and its great. I'm sure that the volume of the beans sold means that they have little chance to get stale on the shop shelves.
As i say to the wife most mornings, "Aluminium pet, nothing else in the world tastes like that, I love the taste of Aluminium in the morning".
She smiled, weakly, the first time.
The thing about illy/lavazza is it's actually way overpriced for what it is.Get this setup right, as practice allows you to, and its great. I'm sure that the volume of the beans sold means that they have little chance to get stale on the shop shelves.
Bulk roasted to within an inch of being charcoal then sprayed with water to cool quickly and add some weight back in. I guess if you like the burnt toast flavour you are on to a winner!
But now you can get Modern Standard beans in sainsburys so finally quality speciality beans are available in a supermarket.
I guess it's like the very chilled lager you drink on holiday in Spain, it has its place and does the job but I wouldn't dream of drinking it back home when you have the best beers from around the world on tap.
Well put. Don't forget the bulk-roasted industrial stuff tends to already be stale by the time it's on the shelf — though I doubt that it makes much difference with the cheap commodity-grade beans they use.
The comparison with industrial lagers is apt, too.
Originally Posted by Phil Lee
How long does it take to grind enough beans for a double espresso with the Lido?
Just to add another data point, I used the Lido for espresso today to make some 18 g double shots.
Even though I have the Lido 3 with standard-pitch threads, instead of the fine-threaded "E" variant, I found that it wasn't particularly challenging to dial in for a ristretto-volume extraction. Moving the marks a few mm makes a difference, but that's the same as most other grinders when you're fine-tuning.
After fine-tuning the grind, I was getting about half a gram a second; 35-40 s for 18 g. I could live with that, as it's seriously impressive for a manual unit! In fact, I'm certain that I've come across consumer-grade electric grinders that weren't that speedy for espresso. Mind you, the Mini-E with SJ burrs cranks out a double shot in around 12 s, but that's hardly a fair comparison. With its standard burr set, it's closer to 20 seconds.
There was a noticeable increase in effort compared to a medium-fine Aeropress-type grind, and it's wasn't quite as buttery to crank at the tighter setting, either. But it's still by far the best manual mill I've tried for espresso-fine output.
By comparison, at my typical medium-fine Aeropress setting, the Lido 3 puts out about a gram a second; it consistently clocks in under 20 s for a 17 g dose, and that's at what seems like a normal pace without a whole lot of cranking effort.
On to more a more important matter. For grind quality, the Lido is indistinguishable from the Mazzer:
(Mazzer Mini-E/SJ output on the left, Lido 3 on the right)
The Lido even has a significant advantage over electric grinders for espresso duty: the weight in is exactly the same as the weight out if you use the water-drop trick, so you get absolutely consistent dosing.
But there are a few caveats that make the Lido 3 less than ideal as a primary espresso grinder:
First, the standard-threaded adjustment ring might be a bit touchy for some to tune in a perfect grind, but I found it was no big deal.
What concerns me more is that the folding handle isn't very well-suited to the less-smooth operation and higher torque required at very fine settings; it folded inadvertently a few times for me when the grind stalled out a bit, which could eventually damage the aluminum mechanism. This also happened a couple times at first with brew grind settings, but I quickly learned how to adjust my technique, and it's eliminated the problem. Better technique might also mitigate this at espresso settings, but I'll admit that it caught me off-guard more than once today.
(The beastly all-steel Lido E has a finer adustment pitch and a fixed handle, so it completely eliminates both issues; I'd strongly recommend it over the aluminum-bodied version for espresso use.)
There's one other issue that's inherent to this type of grinder: dumping the grinds from the catch jar just can't give as light and even of a distribution in the portafilter compared to what you can get with a top electric grinder. But the zero-retention thing is pretty sweet for getting perfectly-consistent shots, so it's probably a wash overall.
For someone that's looking for the top grind quality available, it just doesn't get any better for £150... and even well beyond that. The Lido gives superb results at any setting with resonable speed and effort, and it doesn't make much noise.
However, I won't be getting rid of the Mazzer just yet; portability isn't really a consideration with a typical espresso setup, and I like the convenience of fluffy grinds straight into the portafilter at the touch of a button for my morning shot. But grind quality is definitely no longer an advantage for electric mills. :D
Last edited by Belligero; 22nd June 2016 at 11:24.
Next steps:
I was led to the book by this blog article: Do I need to use filtered water to make my coffee? And, like Belligero at #128:
"There's one other issue that's inherent to this type of grinder: dumping the grinds from the catch jar just can't give as light and even of a distribution in the portafilter compared to what you can get with a top electric grinder. But the zero-retention thing is pretty sweet for getting perfectly-consistent shots, so it's probably a wash overall."
...I need something to help me decant the ground coffee into the holder.
The book is on order, I just need to wait until OE open up their store on 5 July to order the cone and some other accessories.
Nice!
I just cut the bottom off a cottage cheese container to create a funnel, which tapers in perfectly for a secure friction fit with a standard VST double portafilter. (Not my idea; I first saw the suggestion here, where they used a yogurt container: https://www.home-barista.com/weiss-d...technique.html.) I'd highly recommend giving that a go!
Since we've discussed a few ridiculous three-letter-acronyms already, I'll add that the WDT (Weiss Distribution Technique) described in the above link does drastically reduce pinhole leaks and makes for a more consistent extraction. Now I almost always even out the grounds with a stirring tool made from a big leather sewing needle jammed into a wine cork. It's not much bother, and it probably saves time overall when you consider that it pretty much eliminates overspray messes.
David Schomer's Espresso Coffee: Professional Techniques book is another good (though rather technical) resource if you're into this stuff; I'd be happy to lend you my copy for a while if you like.
Last edited by Belligero; 1st July 2016 at 13:24.
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I'm off to buy (and consume) a yogurt, or similar, soon! I'll give it a go before buying OE's cone.
These days I only use moka pots and V60 filters for my coffee brewing. Even so, when I bought ground coffee, I used to stir it with a tool made from a tie-wrap with most of the plastic stripped off and the wire doubled over (loop with plastic for grip) and twisted together.
Now I'm grinding my own it isn't quite as fine, so a tap generally settles the coffee into the holder and I haven't noticed any clumping.
It's a kind and generous of you to offer a loan of your book, but I won't be taking you up on it, thanks, as I'm not as interested in espresso as I once was. That said, I'll probably end up getting a copy sooner or later, just out of interest. My brother makes trips to the US and so I might get him to order it for me (link).
Unless you want an RO system fitted in your kitchen then Ashbrook Spring from Tesco has the right PH and TDS levels for coffee making, it's £1:20 for five litres so not expensive. It's actually industrially RO processed tap water not 'spring' water, tastes much better than jug filtered water and more consistent for coffee brewing. Saves on machine de scaling and maintainence especially if in a hard water area.Water For Coffee: What about the water?
RO: reverse osmosis
TDS: total dissolved solids
After being mentioned on here, I bought one of these. Ace.
https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/eurek...e-grinder.html
Thanks for that.
To be honest I'm only buying the book out of interest and to see if I can get some understanding of the subject. I'm lucky enough that a Brita filter gets me pretty close to the The Specialty Coffee Association of America Water Quality Guidelines (link). I did use Highland Spring for brewing my tea for a while until the filter jug arrived and I found a bottled water survey online (link) that gave me a little more info.
Now that looks like a proper piece of gear! Would be interested to know your thoughts on it, as that seems to be the home grinder to have.
Indeed, the water quality makes a difference in taste; it's noticeable when travelling.
I've been very pleased with it. Because it grinds and doses so consistently, once you're set up with a particular bean you're sorted.
I saved a significant amount of money by buying here:
http://www.elektros.it/gb/en/coffee_...a_piccola.html
Looks well dodgy, but a search of the coffee forums will put your mind at rest. Fantastic customer service.
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Nice; thanks for the feedback and the link.
That's a good tip for anyone who's looking for a new setup. I'd imagine that it's a fantastic machine, as I'm already more than satisfied with the wimpier Mini-E with SJ burrs for grind quality and speed.
Made in Florence, too!
Class 😂😂😂
Spent a bit of time on Sunday refurbishing a neglected Mazzer Major for a new life at a friend's pub:
Except for needing a fresh set of burrs, everything checked out good as new. These things are seriously built to last.
Though possibly overkill for home use, with a bit of looking, it's possible to find a pro grinder cheap — in this case — free. Result!
Last edited by Belligero; 12th August 2016 at 11:08. Reason: fix image link
David Schomer's book is really a great piece. I have not bought it yet but have read some reviews and some sample pages of it.Nice!
I just cut the bottom off a cottage cheese container to create a funnel, which tapers in perfectly for a secure friction fit with a standard VST double portafilter. (Not my idea; I first saw the suggestion here, where they used a yogurt container: http://www.wordsiseek.com/espresso-machines/.) I'd highly recommend giving that a go!
Since we've discussed a few ridiculous three-letter-acronyms already, I'll add that the WDT (Weiss Distribution Technique) described in the above link does drastically reduce pinhole leaks and makes for a more consistent extraction. Now I almost always even out the grounds with a stirring tool made from a big leather sewing needle jammed into a wine cork. It's not much bother, and it probably saves time overall when you consider that it pretty much eliminates overspray messes.
David Schomer's Espresso Coffee: Professional Techniques book is another good (though rather technical) resource if you're into this stuff; I'd be happy to lend you my copy for a while if you like.
Ok, I've just gone back to a moka pot after years of absence. My bodum burr grinder isn't producing a fine enough grind. Which electric grinder should I get? Budget is fifty quid.
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
I'd start with having a hunt around the online classifieds; you'd be amazed at what kind of well-looked-after gear that comes up sometimes. Other than that, I'm not sure what kinds of electric burr grinders are out there for £50 these days that would go finer than the Bodum.
(As an aside, about five years ago, I bought a Bodum Bistro as a gift for a friend and I recall it being around that price; it seemed to be adequate for French press and filter use until his wife tried to run dried coconut bits through it and burned out the motor.)
Just don't get a blade "grinder"; they're invariably awful.
I was in Heartlandcoffi roaster in Wales recently. They use a Vario for smaller amounts
It is a bodum bistro I've got. It used to grind finer when I first got it . I think I need to take it apart and align the tectonic plates or somwthing.
I've been checking the usual places for mazzer etc, ive seen nothing under the two hundred quid mark yet.
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
I'd be very tempted to just shim the upper burr carrier with a washer in that case.
Keep your eye out; patience tends to be rewarded with this stuff and there are deals out there to be had.
I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again, I have a Hario Skerton hand grinder and a blade grinder and in blind tests I prefer the taste of the coffee from the blade grinder.
Just sayin'
I regard myself as a coffee snob, don't have instant in the house, use an Aeropress 3 or 4 times a day and guess what I use Ikea beans. Lovely. I'm certainly not going to stop using a piece of kit I prefer the resulting taste of because I keep getting told blade grinders are no good! They work for me.
Just sayin'
Have you ever tried using good beans?
Quite. You are not a coffee snob if you use bulk roasted/over roasted beans of supermarket quality.
If you know the grower, co-operative, mill, process (washed, dry-hulled, honey etc) pick and roast date then you are on the way to becoming an enthusiast.
Don't like the word snob as that suggests you care what people think rather than enjoying something for its intrinsic qualities.
Ikea beans ffs
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
How about the DeLonghi KG79? See this link for some more info and shop around. You won't need to do the mod in the link as you don't need an espresso fine grind but the KG79 gets decent reviews in the budget category of grinders as far as I've seen.
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