Originally Posted by Josh B
Yes you are right the world was a better place when thumping your co-workers was commonplance. It's all the lezzers fault innit.
Although this may/may not have been a publicity stunt it is getting a lot of media coverage good or bad today and the petition is climbing by the hour.
I am just not sure if TG would survive without JC and it is especially difficult as I think he still owns half the production company that makes TG.
However I unlikely I do think Chris Evans would be great in a car show.
Allegedly...this producer:
Let's be brutally honest - this is a show, paid for by the licence fee, where some lucky people to drive very fast in the sort of cars I had on my bedroom wall aged 12 - where they make some silly jokes and there's lots of lingering car porn shots of gleaming bonnets and spinning6 tyres kicking up gravel, after which they say things like 'well, the Aston is a tiny bit better than the Ferrari, but it costs £60k more, but its still the one I'd buy' - at best it's light entertainment and at worst irrelevant twaddle. About time it's canned or shifted to sky/discovery IMHO, minus Clarkson who is a bit too old to be playing class clown.
Is JC liable to be sued by the BBC with respect to the losses incurred by his unreasonable behaviour and arising from those episodes they are now unable to broadcast and the dimunition in the value of that portion of the Top Gear product which he sold to them?
I dunno, ain't got the facts and I'm no lawyer...that would make me laugh though.
Doubt it since the episodes have all ready been filmed and no reason not to broadcast them (unless offensive)
Seems to me that Clarkson holds all the cards:
- He's already sold his holding in Top Gear, so has a very healthy bank account;
- He has the knowledge that he was primarily responsible for creating the most watched factual TV series worldwide;
- He has 350,000 (and counting) people in the UK who support him; and
- I am sure that he has no shortage of job offers (Sky? ITV?).
In the meantime, the BBC are in a no-win situation; either they get rid of one of their most popular presenters (and an income of £150+ million a year) or they are seen to condone having an (alleged) bully on their payroll.
Allegedly...this producer:
It is a face you could just punch, to be fair
It also has to be said I get very grumpy when I'm hungry, maybe it's the name?
Lets be honest its a show that makes a lot of money for the BBC and more than likely subsidizes a few of the shows that fail. Why would you can it.
So Eastenders dies?
Last nights prime time schedule on BBC1 was a bland magazine program, two soaps and yet another cookery competition.
Nail on head there.
I believe shows like TG are created by staff of hundreds of people.
The door has just opened for Guy Martin..bring him in and lets get bikes back on the telly!
The door has just opened for Guy Martin..bring him in and lets get bikes back on the telly!
In an instant you will cut the viewing figures by 80% . Bikes will not get the viewers. Like Guy Martin though,plus he does know what he is talking about.
OK, so we've had Chris Evans and Guy Martin as names that we have thrown into the hat, though CE has said that he wouldn't be up for it.
How about Perry McCarthy? He seems to be an enthusiastic kind of guy, he'd be coming around full circle as well!
Guy Martin has been quite open in the past about his dislike of having the spotlight shone on him. He likes to do what he wants and on his terms. I doubt he would want the job, it would interfere with all his lorry MOTs.
^^ Yeah, I'm a big fan of Guy Martin but Top Gear really isn't his bag.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...nsion-top-gear
An interesting article about the background and legal/financial consequences for the BBC. It seems that May & Hammond have also suspended their contract negotiations with the BBC.
Anyone with an Xbox might get this...
Hammond looks hilarious!
Er, because he was 'killed off' by the Top Gear producers the first time around? (Remember the silly, 'off the end of an aircraft carrier' scene?)
The personnel might have changed but the collective will still remember (in true Borg style). Ben Collins would have the same sort of chance (although his brief appearances on Fifth Gear, I think, showed that he's better off not talking when he's in front of a camera).
The original Stig was killed off, not Perry McCarthy. Colins wouldn't stand a chance but that'd be due to the controversial "coming out", I think that PM was so long ago that there'd be space for him to come back as a presenter.
Unless, of course, he's already returned in white...
"Neither Clarkson nor the BBC would comment on reports that the presenter punched producer Oisin Tymon when no hot food was available after a day's filming".
Jesus H, 'Oisin Tymon'. I'd punch him just for the name.
Suzi Perry!!
God forbid, she's already put me further off F1.
Guy Martin? Likeable chap, and I'd love to see him win a TT, but even the English struggle to understand him.
Chris Evans? **Shudder**
I'm highly suspicious of the timing of all this. We have a General Election looming - remember the "Jezza for PM" petition of a few years ago?
Just saying.......
Nope, it was definitely Perry McCarthy. He had come out as Black Stig, which is why Black Stig was killed off. He's got 0% chance of getting another job on TG.
Anyway, it was all a long, long time ago.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned our very own Eddie as a replacement ...
Clarkson will give an insincere apology and mutter something about acting like an Oaf. Everyone will clap and the world will continue.
Storm in a teacup...
Sabine Schmitz.
If a star on the most popular show ever wants hot food after filming, he should get it. Producer who can't even get that right should be sacked and if punched he ought to say thank you I will mend my ways. Comparing this incident with thumping a work mate in your boring office is just ridiculous guys.
What I said! Easier on the eye as well.
M.
So 3 people who work at the BBC is conclusive evidence that the BBC is in fact right wing not left....... yesssss well....... why on earth didn't I know that.... ??.
I guess same way I didn't know what a fascist libertarian was until you told me....
As Mark says there's no such thing as a fascist libertarian..
....but if you are taking that as evidence of right wing bias then perhaps it's about the famous BBC balance & that's why there are 3 right wing employees...
Ahhh.... I've got it...you are actually Owen Jones behind that username.... that explains it all.......
Not actually sure quite why an off the cuff remark about the BBC disliking Clarkson but having to put up with him ended up down this political OT cultural cul de sac but never mind ehh....
Why do SOME people insist on shoe-horning politics into EVERY discussion about the BBC?
Do the right-wingers believe that Sky is the perfect broadcaster? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't have ANY motoring programmes, successful or otherwise, do they?
Or is it terribly lefty to consider punching a colleague marks you out as a total arsehole who needs suspending? If so, I don't want to work for your right-wing companies thanks!
Personally, I have no idea what happened, but punching a colleague at work should ALWAYS depend an investigation and if appropriate legal action.
A shame that Clarkson seems increasingly unable to behave like a human being and robbed us of some entertaining TV, but I guess his ego has FINALLY got bigger than his gut...
M
It wouldn't cut it by 80% unless it was purely bikes... so no reason that would happen but a few articles here and there would be no problem.
Though heard Andy Wilman being asked this and he said wouldn't test bikes as they would get crucified as bikers would be so hyper critical and more knowledgeable about machines than the general car audience (though may and Hammond would love to just to annoy JC)
I doubt Guy would do it but he has driven plenty of vehicles done mad stunts and certainly has superb machine control but think there would be too much exposure indeed for him and still need the bar room banter the 3 have that can't be bottled....
Anyone remember that Jason guy from the first relaunch of TG? Soon replaced by May as he didn't quite fit and the sparking off from each other began....That's what it would be like again without the Orangutang...
Last edited by lordloz; 11th March 2015 at 19:03.
Remember when wottsisname got dumped from hosting "Have I got news for you" for the more benign offence of taking illegal substances whilst
in bed with working women. BBC management were very fast to let him go.
But then they started revolving hosts weekly So for TG you could have:
Ozzie Osborne
Boris Johnson
Simon Callow
Teresa May
one of One Direction
Why not shake it up a bit ?
If Clarkson hit someone at work, then his position is surely untenable. There can't be too much to discuss on that matter?
The real story here, for me, is the petition started by the BBC hating Guido Fawkes, designed to put the BBC in an impossible position, where they will come off badly whatever happens. I'm surprised that hasn't been more widely commented on (not here, necessarily).
I could free up some time to host TG. How hard can it be?
It all depends, surely. I just don't necessarily see it as that big a deal. It really does depend on the full circumstances and history.
Perhaps the BBC deserves to come off badly, whatever happens.
Indeed. The idea that this can be 'debated' is actually quite disturbing.
Guido is in Murdoch's back pocket and we all know what the agenda is there.
What about John Prescott, blunt speaking northener, already has 2 jags.
Don't the full facts or actual circumstances matter? Can there never be mitigation?
I think most of the people signing don't care what he did they just want top gear back it is quite annoying that they had to go and cancel the last episodes in the series (i saw them filming at Japfest last year and have been waiting too see it) why cant they be done by Hammond and May alone they managed without Hammond when he was in hospital i think it could be quite funny with them mocking jeremy. cant the BBC just fine him a considerable amount of money then everyone is happy:
Top Gear is shown on TV
The BBC fell as if they have sanctioned Clarkson
The BBC make some money
The BBC haven't lost there best tv programme
and ... Clarkson keeps his job
to me a fine is the obvious answer
JAMP0T1
I can't say I disagree with them.
Agreed. The only thing I really watch the BBC for is Top Gear, Sherlock and MOTD.
Is their a poll supporting his dismissal
I'll sign it
Reading this, you'd think Clarkson was someone who'd escaped a North Korean death camp rather than a well connected public school educated multi-millionaire who the BBC hated so much they made him rich...
Why don't you set one up and see how you go?
They were tweeting about it between the 3 of them yesterday... proposing what to put on instead...ranging from 633 squadron to Hammonds idea of putting on last of the summer wine on as that'll be " job done as no one will tell the difference"!
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