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    Lightbulb Rubles heads up for X-mas presents

    The russian ruble is rather low and the GBP relatively strong, making russian watches bargains which wil be hard to believe for many here used to Swiss watch prices.

    On line at Meranom.com choose the ruble option:

    You can now buy an automatic Vostok Amphibia (Classic) on bracelet for 31£
    Add a spare movement and incl. shipping cost you still only scratch 50!

    After all the negative is vented, the bottom line is that these are very rugged real world watches.
    Liberatingly fun beaters and heck, Johnny Depp and Steve Zissou wear one
    It even wears great on a 'Nato'

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    Komandirskies are an absolute steal at only £17 each including postage. Not much chance of getting it delivered before Christmas though. The new Raketa Avtomat not so much a bargain at only £590! I still kind of want one though...



    If anyone in Russia is reading this, would you be interested in buying and sending me a Raketa Red Atom? If the rouble drops any more over Christmas I might have to go for the Avtomat anyway. The one on the Russian only site is half the price of the ones on the export site: http://raketa-shop.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    The one on the Russian only site is half the price of the ones on the export site:
    Some guys on HdR wrote to Raketa about that. That they would sell way more to the west if they would equalize prices. The response was that they did not want to sell more to the west...

    Yes, the Komandirskies are an absolute steal too. You get a bomb proof, time proven automatic with ever so cool heritage of an alien world which no longer exists for that.
    I mean; we proudly wear national socialists watches like their heritage are the dog's bollocks so the watches from the world that won the space race heritage must be the wolf's bollocks!

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    Amongst your crazed rhetoric 'Cilla, there's the occasional gem of wisdom! It had never occurred to me to buy from Meranom in Rubles. I've (so far) only had two from Meranom but could have saved nearly 30 quid with a simple currency change! Cheers for the tip.

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    It is all about boxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Amongst your crazed rhetoric 'Cilla, there's the occasional gem of wisdom! It had never occurred to me to buy from Meranom in Rubles. I've (so far) only had two from Meranom but could have saved nearly 30 quid with a simple currency change! Cheers for the tip.
    Thanks for the compliment.

    Now, the thing is that you THIS one.....

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    So are they worth it?

    Having little knowledge about these watches are they worth the money? Prices seem really cheap and wondering if the '10 year before a service' is irrelevant . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertb View Post
    Having little knowledge about these watches are they worth the money? Prices seem really cheap and wondering if the '10 year before a service' is irrelevant . . .
    Then do a google.
    The amphibia was designed in 1967 and the automatic a later addition to the in house Vostok caliber.
    A unique design feature is the uncoupleing of the crown from the stem upon screwing it down.

    The cases are 316 steel and real world WR200, as in 200 actual meters. The case back seal is like that which the Seadweller would be given.
    The window is acryllic which is ideal for daily use beating it about. Scratches can be easily pollished out by hand and a replacement window with new seal costs less than a coffee.
    Ditto bezel and spring.

    The movements are as durable as it comes and VERY tolerant to lack of maintenance.
    They are not made to the same tolerances as the Swiss ETA but then are designed with this as guideline.
    The standard spec is not that far off from standard grade 2824-2 and like those follow the bell graph spread of variation; most are within the centre quarter of the spec. spread.
    Shock resistance and anti magnetism are on par.

    All in all you get a well designed and well enough made in-house automatic with cool heritage. The manufacture is not as refined as that of ETA but the real world functionality is about on par with the standard grade 2428-2.

    Since there is only one standard spec, no elabore nor chronometer spec finish, the levels of isochrony of THOSE should not be expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertb View Post
    Having little knowledge about these watches are they worth the money? Prices seem really cheap and wondering if the '10 year before a service' is irrelevant . . .
    Honestly, if you subscribe to the Church of Switzerland, you will look down your nose at these and pick every flaw, of which there are a few: poor lume, bezels are often either infuriatingly tight or a bit slack, chromed brass bezels on the standard models.

    Take them for what they are: tough, well designed, surprisingly well finished with good quality dials particularly on the SE models and you can't go wrong. 40 quid for a standard Amphibia or 18 quid for a Komandirskie is phenomenal value. The Amphibia is a genuine 200m diver costing peanuts with actual real history and ingenuity.

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    Going to have a look at meranom.com. Thanks for the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Take them for what they are: tough, well designed, surprisingly well finished with good quality dials particularly on the SE models and you can't go wrong. 40 quid for a standard Amphibia or 18 quid for a Komandirskie is phenomenal value. The Amphibia is a genuine 200m diver costing peanuts with actual real history and ingenuity.
    I just ordered a Komandirskie, for £18 what is there to lose? There were a few pricier models I would have gone for only they were all out of stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deploderer View Post
    I just ordered a Komandirskie, for £18 what is there to lose? There were a few pricier models I would have gone for only they were all out of stock.
    What model did you go for? I've never gone for a Komandirskie myself, I find the majority of them a bit blingy and some of the dials are so tacky, but I'll probably order one once my latest Amphibia comes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    What model did you go for? I've never gone for a Komandirskie myself, I find the majority of them a bit blingy and some of the dials are so tacky, but I'll probably order one once my latest Amphibia comes in.
    http://www.meranom.com/komandirskie-...ie-431306.html
    If it doesn't work for me my son will love it if only due to the Tank on the face.:)

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    That's not bad at all. The blingytacky I was talking about was more the likes of this monstrosity...



    Don't all rush to snap one of those up chaps.

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    Just bought myself an Amphibian 710406 for £32 thanks for the heads-up, Cilla!
    http://www.meranom.com/amphibian-cla...ic-710406.html

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    Some really nice Amphibians and Kommanderskies if your selective, especially the non dated models.Check out Meranom SE models as they're constantly bringing new models out.
    The crudeness and agricultural no-nonsense feel of the watch, really appeals to me and one Amphibia I had was used for scuba for over 15 years and never once let me down and still keeps great time.
    The trouble is they're very addictive........... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryw View Post
    one Amphibia I had was used for scuba for over 15 years and never once let me down and still keeps great time.
    The eating of the pudding as it was eloquently explained by Papa Hotel.

    Quote Originally Posted by barryw View Post
    The trouble is they're very addictive........... :)
    Not that much trouble is it, at the ruble prices you can buy a PILE OF WATCHBOXES full before you spend ONE Omepanro's worth.


    Can those who have ordered one please post an update in the New Year?

    Have fun and not with moderation; a classic Vostok is a fitting companion for that.
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    Rouble off another 4.5% today, god bless the speculators!

    Thanks for the tip, might grab an Amphibian myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proby24 View Post
    Rouble off another 4.5% today, god bless the speculators!

    Thanks for the tip, might grab an Amphibian myself.
    Add a movement and a window while you are at it. It will set you free for many decades to come: You will STILL be spending WAY less than an OEM Swiss Nato strap would set you back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by proby24 View Post
    Rouble off another 4.5% today, god bless the speculators! Thanks for the tip, might grab an Amphibian myself.
    Brand new Amphibias are now less than £30 including shipping - you can't even buy them second hand on eBay for that amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    Add a movement and a window while you are at it.
    A movement is £18. You might as well buy a whole extra watch instead and have a spare movement, case, dial, crown, strap etc :D

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    Dagnamit, thats another watch I didn't need on the way!

    Amphibian Classic 710 at £32 - hard to say no. I spend more on straps without thinking about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post

    A movement is £18. You might as well buy a whole extra watch instead and have a spare movement, case, dial, crown, strap etc :D
    True. Yes, ofcourse.

    It is hard to grasp that you can buy a wide selection of Amphibias and Komandirskies to cover almost every day of the year and still spend the same as one renowned Swiss 'dive' type luxury watch.
    Heck you can buy a dozen for the cost of a service job!

    The only 'problem' that I can see it that you will need to buy wisely or end op spending more on a Nato strap. On the other hand, with a handfull of different colored Natos you can color code the all year round collection without the need to touch a spring bar.
    Since the Nato strap has become the latest OEM chique, you will be ahead of the crowd with a Vostok on it as newer still chique. Apparently some confuse them for Swiss anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    The only 'problem' that I can see it that you will need to buy wisely or end op spending more on a Nato strap. On the other hand, with a handfull of different colored Natos you can color code the all year round collection without the need to touch a spring bar.
    Since the Nato strap has become the latest OEM chique, you will be ahead of the crowd with a Vostok on it as newer still chique. Apparently some confuse them for Swiss anyway...
    It's WIS heresy to put a NATO on a Russian watch so this should never be a problem ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    It's WIS heresy to put a NATO on a Russian watch so this should never be a problem ;)
    My incoming 420se is coming on a NATO...

    Edit: Zulu actually.

    Last edited by Papa Hotel; 1st December 2014 at 12:43.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    It's WIS heresy to put a NATO on a Russian watch so this should never be a problem ;)
    Well, yes and no. It is indeed a NoNo to put a cccp made one on a Nato. Not so much if at all a Russian made one.

    Imagine the



    on a black with red stripe Nato.


    Edit: GREAT SE on that Zulu!!! Again, totally flabbergasting price.
    Please share photos when you are having fun with it. Would be a cool way for 2015 wis-dom.
    Last edited by Huertecilla; 1st December 2014 at 12:58.

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    Black or cream.

    You can even get a quite modernized GMT with extra Zulu for under 100£



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    the vostok 2416B movement is bullet proof - and very well made
    The amphibia case is stainless steel and not plated and has the great feature (i discovered) that when the seals go on the screwdown crown (this was after many years of abuse)
    the water will get into the case but the stem rusts up sold and seals the hole stopping any further damage to the movement

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    We've looked at the lower end of the price point quite a bit, but has anyone had experience of the higher end pieces in the Russian line up they'd be willing to share?

    There are the odd one or two that look like they are well made pieces that don't suffer from being OTT with their looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    You can even get a quite modernized GMT with extra Zulu for under 100£


    I wish you hadn't posted that... I seem to have accidentally bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahiti View Post
    We've looked at the lower end of the price point quite a bit, but has anyone had experience of the higher end pieces in the Russian line up they'd be willing to share?
    I've got a few and they're in a different league from the cheap Amphibias. Obviously we're not talking mid-price Swiss quality here (perhaps the 1967 Amphibia re-issue being an exception) but easily comparable with Seikos and Orients in the same price bracket. Any in particular that are taking your fancy?

    This one arrived yesterday and I'm chuffed to bits with it (not my picture btw) - a Komandirskie with 24 hour hand (not a true GMT watch) and inner rotating bezel for £80-ish:



    Edit - just to reiterate, don't forget to choose roubles, NOT dollars - there's a massive difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    I've got a few and they're in a different league from the cheap Amphibias. Obviously we're not talking mid-price Swiss quality here (perhaps the 1967 Amphibia re-issue being an exception) but easily comparable with Seikos and Orients in the same price bracket.
    I think you have nailed it, again.
    The modern made ones at Meranom prices are even more vfm than the older models. At he Ruble prices they are better deals still.
    The 1967 limited edition reissue was a one-off exception. It is included in my four dive watch homages thread.

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    Interesting. The one that caught my eye is out of stock - rocket n1 blue dial.

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    This decent looking diver is only £110

    http://www.meranom.com/vostok-europe...2-0345104.html

    Bargain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahiti View Post
    Interesting. The one that caught my eye is out of stock - rocket n1 blue dial.
    Vostok-Europe is a Lithuanian company which is totally seperate from Vostok. Although they used to exclusively use Vostok movements, they've since started using a lot of Seiko internals due to supply issues.
    They're nice enough watches (I've owned quite a few) but for me, they have a Shopping-TV/Invicta aura about them. You know the thing - crazy RRP but heavily discounted on QVC to make them seem a bargain.
    They've also had a few quality issues - stick to ones with crown guards as there are plenty of knackered examples on ebay where the crown tube has broken off.

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    You learn something new every day!

    Reminds me though. I still have an Amfibia somewhere which I really should dig out.
    Last edited by Tahiti; 1st December 2014 at 19:52. Reason: clumsy fingers on a silly touch screen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    I've got a few and they're in a different league from the cheap Amphibias. Obviously we're not talking mid-price Swiss quality here (perhaps the 1967 Amphibia re-issue being an exception) but easily comparable with Seikos and Orients in the same price bracket. Any in particular that are taking your fancy?

    This one arrived yesterday and I'm chuffed to bits with it (not my picture btw) - a Komandirskie with 24 hour hand (not a true GMT watch) and inner rotating bezel for £80-ish:



    Edit - just to reiterate, don't forget to choose roubles, NOT dollars - there's a massive difference.
    I really like that excuse the stupid question, but how do you pay in rubles? Is it obvious when you get to checkout?
    I hadn't seen this model before, how much does this work out at?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryw View Post
    I really like that excuse the stupid question, but how do you pay in rubles? Is it obvious when you get to checkout?
    I hadn't seen this model before, how much does this work out at?
    Thanks.
    Make sure you click on the Rubles sign beside the $ then just go through PayPal as normal. Google reckoned it was about 85 quid, I've just paid 97 when postage (for tracking) is added on.

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    This thread inspired me to wear my scuba guy Vostok yesterday/today. It's been at the back of a drawer for at least a year and has lost 2 seconds over 24 hours since I put it on. Can't complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Make sure you click on the Rubles sign beside the $ then just go through PayPal as normal. Google reckoned it was about 85 quid, I've just paid 97 when postage (for tracking) is added on.
    Thanks.

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    I've bought 2 now. And a NATO. Cost me less than £50. Got to love the Russian watches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    Well, yes and no. It is indeed a NoNo to put a cccp made one on a Nato. Not so much if at all a Russian made one.

    Imagine the



    on a black with red stripe Nato.


    Edit: GREAT SE on that Zulu!!! Again, totally flabbergasting price.
    Please share photos when you are having fun with it. Would be a cool way for 2015 wis-dom.
    That model has caught my eye.

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    I don't know about the better ones, but if you're used to even a Pulsar or Lorus, you'll find the basic Scuba Dude style Vostok watch very crude in feel.

    I'm reliably informed that there's lots of clever engineering in there and they always look great in photos, but when I had one, it felt like it had fallen out of a cheap Christmas Cracker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    That model has caught my eye.
    The picture doesn't do it justice, there was a white one on SC recently on a mesh absolutely gorgeous, nice to see Meranom making some re additions.
    Re Christmas cracker, I'd be happy if one fell out of mine............ :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    I don't know about the better ones, but if you're used to even a Pulsar or Lorus, you'll find the basic Scuba Dude style Vostok watch very crude in feel.
    It all depends on your pov and perception.
    They are better designed/engineered than Pulsar/Lorus and simply totally different products. For one they are vintage watches made new and secondly they are intended to be rugged tools. The Pulsar/Lorus are modern consumer products; slick looking if not necessarily very rugged.
    Yes, the Vostoks have a toolish, machined look/feel to them. If you are expecting a modern fashion product than especially the vintage models will appear crude. For some that is appealing, for others not. You apparently are in the second category. No harm in that; plenty of modern fashion slick for you to chose from

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryw View Post
    The picture doesn't do it justice, there was a white one on SC recently on a mesh absolutely gorgeous, nice to see Meranom making some re additions.
    Re Christmas cracker, I'd be happy if one fell out of mine............ :)
    Just seen the white/silver faced one on mesh on the meranom site unfortunately its“out of stock at the moment, I think I“ll wait for that one for 45 quid it looks excellent. With the ruble collapsing should get even cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    Just seen the white/silver faced one on mesh on the meranom site unfortunately its“out of stock at the moment, I think I“ll wait for that one for 45 quid it looks excellent. With the ruble collapsing should get even cheaper.
    So far as I can see, the SE models don't come back into stock, once they're gone, they're gone. I've set stock alerts on a few and never received notification of them coming back in and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting. Not the end of the world though, new SE models are always in the pipeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    So far as I can see, the SE models don't come back into stock, once they're gone, they're gone. I've set stock alerts on a few and never received notification of them coming back in and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting. Not the end of the world though, new SE models are always in the pipeline.
    Oh that is a shame. I“ll keep an eye out for new releases then. Thank-you for the heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    Oh that is a shame. I“ll keep an eye out for new releases then. Thank-you for the heads up.
    If you have a Face Book, sign up to the Meranom page, advance warning usually comes on there.

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    How much is delivery (to UK) from Meranom please ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    So far as I can see, the SE models don't come back into stock, once they're gone, they're gone. I've set stock alerts on a few and never received notification of them coming back in and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting. Not the end of the world though, new SE models are always in the pipeline.
    I have had update emails for the Neptune SE informing me of further stock - unfortunately it was for the green and the black one and I want one of the blue ones - to be fair I had requested stock updates for all three colours just in case I went colour blind in the intervening period. Maybe there is hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton-Browne View Post
    I have had update emails for the Neptune SE informing me of further stock - unfortunately it was for the green and the black one and I want one of the blue ones - to be fair I had requested stock updates for all three colours just in case I went colour blind in the intervening period. Maybe there is hope.
    Ooh, I'd love a Neptune...

    Christ, I wish I'd never signed up to this place sometimes.

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