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    Grand Seiko Quartz Diver!

    Hey guys,

    Just saw this new post on watchuseek, the new GS quartz diver!

    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/gra...010075-11.html
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    I have to see more and better pics, side profile, bracelet/clasp etc.

    Looking at these I'd rather buy an existing GS quartz model.

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    Depends how big it is. There's definitely a space for a sensible sized, thin robust high end quartz tool watch.

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    I am a big GS fan, but a quartz GS just doesn't do it for me.

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    With the 9F61 movement it’s as a good a quartz as can be had, bur that bezel looks awful to me. :-(

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    I actually think the white one looks cool. But need better pics to see whats its like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    With the 9F61 movement it’s as a good a quartz as can be had, bur that bezel looks awful to me. :-(

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    It looks like the numbers on that bezel have been applied with a trowel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim W View Post
    I am a big GS fan, but a quartz GS just doesn't do it for me.
    I'm a bit quartz GS fan, but the GS diver doesn't do it for me!

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    bugger, I was really looking forward to this one and now really like the black dial and the shape of the lugs "bit speedy" but the bezel font is just too thick for me, not exactly a Seiko statement of refinement and design simplicity! o'well, maybe they will revisit in the future.

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    I think it's one you'll have to see in the metal. My gut tells me it's trying too hard to be a ND Sub-a-like with subtle differences like the hour hand and the bezel triangle - neither of which I like anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Depends how big it is. There's definitely a space for a sensible sized, thin robust high end quartz tool watch.
    Absolutely, I would love a 40mm GS quartz diver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjb View Post
    That's because I mad it in PS before we had real pictures. :D
    I just took away the date, changed the text and fixed the bracelet. I even left a little goo on the bracelet to show that it was made in PS.

    i think I need to buy this one regardless of the bezel font. I just need the measurements (max 43x13), and a few more pics of the case to be sure it's a home run.
    Last edited by yonsson; 3rd July 2014 at 07:08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    With the 9F61 movement it’s as a good a quartz as can be had, bur that bezel looks awful to me. :-(

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    True Ralph,

    I think they shouldn't have bothered though, the 7c46 as as good as it gets for a diver, why not put that in an updated MM300 case?
    The 7c46 has a five year battery life and is unstoppable, against the precision and three year battery life of the 9f61.

    But still, I need more and better pics!

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    Don't like the font use on the bezel nor the 12:00 marker.

    Given the current FX rate on say 20% off the listed price of JPY370,000, it will cost around $2,700 or GBP1,500, pretty cheap for a GS.
    Last edited by seikomatic; 3rd July 2014 at 08:09.

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    42.7mm diameter according to that site.

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    It's not the price, that sounds really OK to me (if that is correct), it's the looks.
    For the same money you get an Tag Aquaracer with generic ETA quartz inside, so great specs, shame about the bland(ish) looks.

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    Jesus wept!!!

    WTF is up with that munted hour hand?????

    "It's not for me, I'm out"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob (NZ) View Post
    Jesus wept!!!

    WTF is up with that munted hour hand?????

    "It's not for me, I'm out"

    Rob.
    Were you ever "ïn"?

    Oh, and jesus can't weep, he doesn't exist, you must have watched to much Madonna clips.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob (NZ) View Post
    Jesus wept!!!
    WTF is up with that munted hour hand?????
    "It's not for me, I'm out"

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    I don't think you were in, so I don't see that as a bad thing. :)
    It's the same hour hand as the SBGA029 and the SD tunas.


    Edit: Daddel was fater. :)

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    side by side comparison of the stock pix and you can tell the differences..the bracelet, the crown and case ,finishing..the hour hand..that I particularly !

    Last edited by seikomatic; 3rd July 2014 at 08:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikomatic View Post
    side by side comparison of the stock pix and you can tell the differences..the bracelet, the crown and case ,finishing..the hour hand..that I particularly !
    Good one! The smaller crown and case size are two great things for wearability (is that even a word?). I didn't notice the hour hand difference until you posted that pic.

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    I prefer the 'regular' oyster and the crown on the new one but just couldn't live with the split triangle at 12 - why oh why did they do that?

    I also prefer a date so, if I could make an ideal amalgamation of the two, I'd put the oyster on the SD and voila. But for the price of the new one of course

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    I can say the bracelet of the SD is basically a refined oyster only


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    The bezel is simply a deal breaker! Too bad 😂

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    @Seikomatic
    But the 5-piece bracelet has more folds, so I find that it conforms a lot better to the wrist. I also dislike having a bracelet with everything in that fine brushed finish. It looks great, but it's very prone to scratches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson View Post
    That's because I mad it in PS before we had real pictures. :D
    I just took away the date, changed the text and fixed the bracelet. I even left a little goo on the bracelet to show that it was made in PS.

    i think I need to buy this one regardless of the bezel font. I just need the measurements (max 43x13), and a few more pics of the case to be sure it's a home run.
    I did wonder if it was a "shopped" picture. Maybe you could get a job designing for Seiko I think it looks better than the real thing.

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    The specs are official:
    http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/gs/coll...ml?pid=SBGX117
    40,2mm x 13mm. Lug to lug: 50,2mm.
    Last edited by yonsson; 1st August 2014 at 19:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson View Post
    The specs are official:
    http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/gs/coll...ml?pid=SBGX117
    40,2mm x 13mm. Lug to lug: 50,2mm.
    My Japanese isn't too great but it looks to me like the diameter is 42.7mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andymac66 View Post
    My Japanese isn't too great but it looks to me like the diameter is 42.7mm.
    Hehe, yes. 42,7mm diameter, 13mm height, 50,2mm lug to lug.

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    Watch these pages:


    I assume Seiko will put up more "Photo Images" at some stage.

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    Only my personal opinion but I think the GS Diver is just wrong. The purity of form of the GS from its stunning handset to its superbly designed yet understated case is a thing of beauty. Seiko have sullied this by making it look like every other middle range diver they produce. They already have the superb Marine Master series so why do we need a GS diver? other than trying to compete against the obvious Swiss Sports models.

    As I say just my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgone Accumulator View Post
    Only my personal opinion but I think the GS Diver is just wrong. The purity of form of the GS from its stunning handset to its superbly designed yet understated case is a thing of beauty. Seiko have sullied this by making it look like every other middle range diver they produce. They already have the superb Marine Master series so why do we need a GS diver? other than trying to compete against the obvious Swiss Sports models. As I say just my humble opinion.
    GS Diver is not new. Has been around for a while and is a thing of beauty. GS Quartz diver is new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    GS Diver is not new. Has been around for a while and is a thing of beauty. GS Quartz diver is new.
    Yes I was aware of that. I did not say it was new just that I thought it was wrong. As I have never actually handled or seen the diver in the flesh I will bow to your experience on the "thing of beauty". I would be as turned off by a Datejust diver horses for courses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgone Accumulator View Post
    so why do we need a GS diver? other than trying to compete against the obvious Swiss Sports models.

    As I say just my humble opinion.
    1: It is the only Seiko HAQ diver being produced now.
    2: It's the only Seiko diver being sold without a date.
    3: It is an alternative to the SBGA029/031. Being more toolish and cheaper.

    Essentially its a super accurate beater, but with great finishing. I think that's brilliant. Quartz is the perfect movement type for divers watches.

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    I'm not a fan of the bezel font unfortunately which is a shame as size and price-wise this is exactly what I am looking for at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgone Accumulator View Post
    Yes I was aware of that. I did not say it was new just that I thought it was wrong. As I have never actually handled or seen the diver in the flesh I will bow to your experience on the "thing of beauty". I would be as turned off by a Datejust diver horses for courses.
    The SBGA029/031 are superb watches, but for me they are too big. The new quartz diver is luckily a little smaller, but will have the same finishing (-the bracelet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson View Post
    1: It is the only Seiko HAQ diver being produced now.
    2: It's the only Seiko diver being sold without a date.
    3: It is an alternative to the SBGA029/031. Being more toolish and cheaper.

    Essentially its a super accurate beater, but with great finishing. I think that's brilliant. Quartz is the perfect movement type for divers watches.
    Agreed.

    But I would like to see some quality shots of this piece now, from all angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binsull View Post
    I'm not a fan of the bezel font unfortunately which is a shame as size and price-wise this is exactly what I am looking for at the moment.
    Having said that it doesn't look so bad in this photo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    But I would like to see some quality shots of this piece now, from all angles.

    Daddel.
    I promise I'll post some quality makro photos of mine when it arrives (in September). :)

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    I don't like the 12 marker and the black face looks alot better than the white.

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    Forgot to post this quality pic for you Daddel. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson View Post
    Forgot to post this quality pic for you Daddel. ;)


    You Lucky man!

    Can't wait for the pics.

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    While I have no doubt that being a Grand Seiko it will have a special presence in real life which is not captured by photos, I totally do not get the dive bezel on a Grand Seiko. Not in the 21st C. when it is by no stretch of imagination a functional choice for diving.

    I do get Seiko marketing it since, however much of a contradiction in terms it may be, the luxury dive watch has a HUGE market.

    I personally just do not get it at all from a users point of view:
    I wear a black dialed no date SBGX on a bracelet as my alternate daily 'beater' watch and on a farm so it takes some beating indeed.
    The quality is a joy whenever I look at the time while it is understated stylish, modestly sized on the wrist.
    I cannot imagine why one would want to add the bulk of a dive bezel and opt for a way more butch hand/markers set. If one would feel that lume is necessary there are two very elegant models of the 8F generation.

    For me the dive watch thing is at odds with the essence of Grand Seiko which is illustrated by the silver dialed 'autodater' reissue.
    Imo the dive bezel/dial puts it in the same desk diver league as the Submariner, Seamaster et al.
    The way I see it, it undressess a class act into an aspirational plebean one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson View Post
    1: It is the only Seiko HAQ diver being produced now.
    2: It's the only Seiko diver being sold without a date.
    3: It is an alternative to the SBGA029/031. Being more toolish and cheaper.

    Essentially its a super accurate beater, but with great finishing. I think that's brilliant. Quartz is the perfect movement type for divers watches.
    Apat from the ' toolish' one, I agree with all points but cannot for the life of me see the logic of putting it together in a GS dive watch. Probably because the tool argument is such a contradiction in terms.
    For me it is so at odds with the GS not being middle of the road; it puts it in the middle of it!
    Remember the cheerfully cheap 250 Euros haq 8F Seiko diver? NOW we know why it was discontinued!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    For me the dive watch thing is at odds with the essence of Grand Seiko which is illustrated by the silver dialed 'autodater' reissue.
    Imo the dive bezel/dial puts it in the same desk diver league as the Submariner, Seamaster et al.
    The way I see it, it undressess a class act into an aspirational plebean one.
    Buy what you want and what makes you happy, as always, but I agree with this sentiment. I really appreciate many of the GS models but this just feels extremely derivative. Why exactly does GS feel that there has to be a higher-end dive model in the range...?

    SGR

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    Cilla - what's the reference for that 8f HAQ diver please.
    Last edited by futon river crossing; 4th August 2014 at 10:29.

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    I agree - it doesn't look like a GS. the bezel is truly awful.

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