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    Show me your Mechanical Perpetual Calendar!

    Well, having just bought my first Perpetual Calendar, I'd like to see the other members iterations of this fabulous complication.

    No quartz or annual calendars please, just the full fat unskimmed Mechanical Perpetual variety

    I'll start off with my Jaeger LeCoultre Master 8 Days Perpetual 40




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    I know everyone's seen this before but it's worthy of mention because of the simple and elegent way in which the complications are provided. Spectacular movement too...


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    This was mine until I sold it....... :-(



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    I was looking at one of those a couple of hours ago - more expensive than yours though!
    Last edited by learningtofly; 24th June 2014 at 15:35.

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    Boom...



    Not exactly slim or elegant, but it gets the job done...

    Regards,
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    Patek Philippe 3940R


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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    I was looking at one of those a couple of hours ago - more expensive than yours though!
    Hi Tony, What did you think of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Hi Tony, What did you think of it?
    It's an absolutely beautiful watch. I'm fact, the only thing that stopped me from buying yours was the slightly frivolous LE text on the dial (that's just me, though). Overall, a cracker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowndes View Post
    That's a beauty!

    One thing I've noticed though (also with watches from other manufacturers) is that there is quite often no separating dot between the 31 and 1 on the day sub-dial. I wonder why?

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    ^

    That's because 1 comes after 31 ;) the other dots represent days, there is no day between 1 and 31 yet they want to show both 1 and 31 as they are significant and they're odd number.

    I have seen a PC which has a 31 and the shorter 1 next to it which is more aesthetically pleasing but cannot remember which.

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    I reckon this is going to be a short thread!

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    Some real beautiful pieces. I will need to dig mine out from the safe and post some pictures.

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    That watch looks great Jacob.

    Here's mine


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    Wow, what a good thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC180 View Post
    Well, having just bought my first Perpetual Calendar, I'd like to see the other members iterations of this fabulous complication.

    No quartz or annual calendars please, just the full fat unskimmed Mechanical Perpetual variety

    I'll start off with my Jaeger LeCoultre Master 8 Days Perpetual 40



    Beautiful watch, but crap timekeeper!!! It's running 2 days fast lol
    Neil.

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    Show-offs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilf1965 View Post
    Beautiful watch, but crap timekeeper!!! It's running 2 days fast lol
    Neil.
    Aha, that's because in my exuberance last week when It arrived, I advanced the watch past the date and the watch only goes one way... So on Thursday, I can wear my new purchase showing the correct date for the first time

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    Quote Originally Posted by craniotes View Post


    Not exactly slim or elegant, but it gets the job done...

    Regards,
    Adam
    Absolutely love it Adam, super cool just way way too big for me sadly.

    Any big pilot is lovely and the PC is supercool in any version esp ceramic.

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    ... IWC GST PC:









    Cheers,
    Christian

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    JLC Master Ultra Thin Perpetual Calendar

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    Quote Originally Posted by u2112 View Post
    ... IWC GST PC:









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    My favourite by far. I'am a huge IWC fan and haven't seen this before. Great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris56 View Post
    JLC Master Ultra Thin Perpetual Calendar
    lovely that Chris, is that Boutique edition limited?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC180 View Post
    lovely that Chris, is that Boutique edition limited?
    Affirmative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time Cat View Post
    My favourite by far. I'am a huge IWC fan and haven't seen this before. Great!
    Its a great and complicated watch but very substantial in size and weight. If you have the wrist to fit then at £6k or so, this model offers the best VFM of any perpetual calendar in my opinion.

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    This should have been started in the Bullingdon Club

    G and T with frozen water and fruit anyone



    Superb watches guys.Slightly different league than anything in my collection. Great to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC180 View Post
    ^

    That's because 1 comes after 31 ;) the other dots represent days, there is no day between 1 and 31 yet they want to show both 1 and 31 as they are significant and they're odd number.

    I have seen a PC which has a 31 and the shorter 1 next to it which is more aesthetically pleasing but cannot remember which.
    Thanks for the explanation :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC180 View Post
    Aha, that's because in my exuberance last week when It arrived, I advanced the watch past the date and the watch only goes one way... So on Thursday, I can wear my new purchase showing the correct date for the first time
    Schoolboy error, but shows great restraint!! I couldn't have waited that long. :-)

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    Damn! Does this mean I have to get one if I want to join in?

    Loving ALL the JLCs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilf1965 View Post
    Schoolboy error, but shows great restraint!! I couldn't have waited that long. :-)
    Indeed Neil But it has taken 7 years to develop that WIS restraint, had this happened earlier on in my wisdom in my mid twenties, I would have been so irked and upset I would have driven to the JLC workshop in Camden and begged them to fix it there and then. We live and learn and grown up eventually, I was frustrated but it teaches you something in the process ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by u2112 View Post
    ... IWC GST PC:









    Cheers,
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    I love that!! I'm starting to get the IWC bug again lately. Hmmph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post
    I love that!! I'm starting to get the IWC bug again lately. Hmmph.
    You'll never fit that on your weedy wrists Wayne!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC180 View Post
    You'll never fit that on your weedy wrists Wayne!
    Is it the lug to lug length that's no good do you reckon? I don't normally like PPCs but that is a very usable one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post
    Is it the lug to lug length that's no good do you reckon? I don't normally like PPCs but that is a very usable one.
    No, that should be ok as it has stumpy lugs, it's the case depth and overall weight I fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC180 View Post
    No, that should be ok as it has stumpy lugs, it's the case depth and overall weight I fear.
    Hmmm at 43mm I should be fine. Weight doesn't usually affect me at all but finding one of these to try will no doubt be difficult!

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post
    Hmmm at 43mm I should be fine. Weight doesn't usually affect me at all but finding one of these to try will no doubt be difficult!
    If you can comfortably wear the PO 9300 and AP diver then you may be OK. Saw one in the Burlington Arcade a few weeks back. In that shop that seems to think if you shring wrap the watch heads then they will automatically be worth more..

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    ... well, the GST PC is not a small watch by any means and when it was introduced 13 years ago it was considered as very large and heavy. However, by today's standards it is pretty much a "regular" size, i.e. way smaller than a 45.5mm PO (or the PO Chrono) or any normal Panerai. And the diameter (43mm) is no problem on a normal sized wrist - but you have to wear this watch rather tight because on a loose bracelet it tends to feel top-heavy and wander around or the crown ends up in the back of your hand.



    But if you manage to adjust the bracelet to a good fit, the watch sits nicely on the wrist and you get used to the weight quickly:







    And, as mentioned before, with regard to value for money they are pretty unique for a perpetual calendar.

    Cheers,
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    Terrific pieces, but that PP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris56 View Post
    JLC Master Ultra Thin Perpetual Calendar
    One of my grails!! Love this perpetual, so thin yet packed with JLC goodness.

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    This one, long gone though:


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    Only just seen this thread, so here's my two.






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    Quote Originally Posted by u2112 View Post
    ... well, the GST PC is not a small watch by any means and when it was introduced 13 years ago it was considered as very large and heavy. However, by today's standards it is pretty much a "regular" size, i.e. way smaller than a 45.5mm PO (or the PO Chrono) or any normal Panerai. And the diameter (43mm) is no problem on a normal sized wrist - but you have to wear this watch rather tight because on a loose bracelet it tends to feel top-heavy and wander around or the crown ends up in the back of your hand.



    But if you manage to adjust the bracelet to a good fit, the watch sits nicely on the wrist and you get used to the weight quickly:







    And, as mentioned before, with regard to value for money they are pretty unique for a perpetual calendar.

    Cheers,
    Christian
    Christian that is a really stunning IWC. One of the best from that era! True keeper indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm68 View Post
    Only just seen this thread, so here's my two.

    http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps8b1bfe86.jpg
    We have a winner!

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    The two JLCs are absolutely exquisite.

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    What is this porn page ?? :drooling:

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    sorry to be a idiot, but i always get confused by this

    annual calendar shows month as well as date, but doesn't know how many days are in each month, hence you have to manually adjust at the end of a month without 31 days?
    Perpetual calendar adjusts for the number of days in each month but doesn't need adjusting, except during leap years?
    what are the IWC versions that even know the year and don;t need adjusting even with the leap year?

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    Show me your Mechanical Perpetual Calendar!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrpgkennedy View Post
    sorry to be a idiot, but i always get confused by this

    annual calendar shows month as well as date, but doesn't know how many days are in each month, hence you have to manually adjust at the end of a month without 31 days?
    Perpetual calendar adjusts for the number of days in each month but doesn't need adjusting, except during leap years?
    what are the IWC versions that even know the year and don;t need adjusting even with the leap year?
    Annual calendar knows each month but thinks February has twenty nine days so needs adjusting once a year for three years out of four.

    Perpetual calendar knows the leap years too so never needs to have the date adjusted.

    Hope this helps.


    When I say it "knows", obviously I know that it's mechanical and can't know anything. it's just easier to describe than by going into the complexities of the mechanics of the movements.
    Last edited by Dave+63; 28th June 2014 at 22:31. Reason: grammar

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    ... a perpetual calendar does not need any correction for regular leap years (only every 100 years, because every 25th leap year is skipped in our calendar), no matter whether the watch shows the actual year (as with IWC and some JLC) or has a leap year indicator (Patek, ALS etc.).

    An annual calendar requires one correction every year at the end of February - for every other month this complication "knows" the correct number of days, i.e. it switches correctly after either 30 or 31 days. Typical examples are the Patek annual calendars or the Omega Aqua Terra Annual Calendar.

    A full calendar shows day and month (often moon phase as well) but requires adjustment at the end of each month with less than 31 days. Typical examples are the JLC Triple Date or the Zenith Chronomaster.

    Cheers,
    Christian

    addendum: Annual calendars usullay have only a month length indicator disk with two steps - 30 or 31 days; I don't think I have seen one with a 29 days indication for February.
    Last edited by u2112; 28th June 2014 at 22:44. Reason: overlapping post

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpgkennedy View Post
    sorry to be a idiot, but i always get confused by this

    annual calendar shows month as well as date, but doesn't know how many days are in each month, hence you have to manually adjust at the end of a month without 31 days?
    Perpetual calendar adjusts for the number of days in each month but doesn't need adjusting, except during leap years?
    what are the IWC versions that even know the year and don;t need adjusting even with the leap year?
    An annual calendar will only need adjusting for the beginning of March, save for a leap year when it'll be correct, Mark. A perpetual calendar has a quantieme complication that accounts for the leap year cycle.

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    I believe even perpetual calendar ones need adjusting twice a month too because of the change between GMT and BST.

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