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    Well, son-uv-a....

    In the category of "why didn't I think of that?" ideas:

    external fine adjustment complication Bulova

    While the watch's design is not my cup of tea, and I wonder if the complication could be made water tight for a diver, the idea is nonetheless long overdue.
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    Great idea, not sure it needed to be so conspicuous but I like it.

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    Don't like the execution, but I do like the idea.

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    Pretty sure this isn't a new idea , external 'trimmers' go way back...
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    Nice idea in principle but not particularly accurate.

    By my calculation, 99.99% accuracy is ~9s per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    Pretty sure this isn't a new idea , external 'trimmers' go way back...
    In twelve years of collecting and having looked at what must by now be tens of thousands of watches, I'm surprised I've never seen anything like it if it already exists. Got any links?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    Pretty sure this isn't a new idea , external 'trimmers' go way back...
    The first I have heard of it, and the masses I suspect, its a great idea, perhaps a bit gimmicky but right up the WIS' alley I would have thought. Will be interesting to see if other manufacturers come up with anything similar, as I too am not a fan of Bulova.
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    ... the world’s first and only External Fine Adjustment System (EFAS).


    They obviously didn't do their homework as Seiko were doing this about 40+ years ago on their King Seikos.

    See post #4 here : http://seikoholics.yuku.com/sreply/4...s#.UmQ8MhCJnLQ

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    Seiko offered a regulating screw that could be accessed between the lower lugs on the case. It was certainly on their King Seiko ranges in the 60s / 70s. A simple screw driver was all that you needed. I am pretty sure water resistance is compromised though, maybe that's the reason it didn't catch on more?

    no pics to hand right now, but I am google should throw something up!

    ETA...looks like I was beaten to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie_101 View Post
    They obviously didn't do their homework as Seiko were doing this about 40+ years ago on their King Seikos.

    See post #4 here : http://seikoholics.yuku.com/sreply/4...s#.UmQ8MhCJnLQ

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    I'd still call it an improvement on the Seiko system you've linked because it adds a visual reference that's lacking on the Seiko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TakesALickin View Post
    I'd still call it an improvement on the Seiko system you've linked because it adds a visual reference that's lacking on the Seiko.
    But you have admit, it's the same idea....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    But you have admit, it's the same idea....
    There was also the Avia Ajustor which could be regulated without opening the case. Two little indents in the case which when pressed moved the regulator arm either + or - depending on which one you pressed.

    That was from the 1960's i woud think, so agree with Jason, it's not a new idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    But you have admit, it's the same idea....
    Yes, it's the same idea. In the same way that an automatic transmission is the same idea as a manual transmission. Just a little bit better and easier to use. But congrats for proving that Maria Bamford's family isn't the only place to see "Joy Whack-A-Mole" played at a professional level.

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    Here's the fine adjustment on a '71 5626 Seiko chronometer.

    The large screw shown is a plug that must be removed first before adjustment can be carried out


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    Quote Originally Posted by seikoking View Post
    Seiko offered a regulating screw that could be accessed between the lower lugs on the case. It was certainly on their King Seiko ranges in the 60s / 70s. A simple screw driver was all that you needed. I am pretty sure water resistance is compromised though, maybe that's the reason it didn't catch on more?
    I am sure you are right about the water resistance.
    I have a couple of lovely King Seiko's with this feature, and I wouldn't let them anywhere near water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakesALickin View Post
    Yes, it's the same idea. In the same way that an automatic transmission is the same idea as a manual transmission. Just a little bit better and easier to use.
    Hang on. You asked for comparables, and then one was produced from 40 years ago and you mock it ? What was the point in asking for comparables then ? Are you a bit embarassed that in your 'twelve years of collecting and having looked at what must by now be tens of thousands of watches' you haven't seen one of the classic Seiko innovations, so you defensively lash out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim W View Post
    I am sure you are right about the water resistance.
    I have a couple of lovely King Seiko's with this feature, and I wouldn't let them anywhere near water.
    To be fair, they weren't advertised as having any significant water resistance. Definitely not so after 40 years though :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsykes2000 View Post



    To be fair, they weren't advertised as having any significant water resistance. Definitely not so after 40 years though :)
    Just quoted as water resistant.

    TBH with serious immersion water would get in the crown first.


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