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  • 60mph dial with steel case

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  • 60mph dial with PVD case a polished steel bezel

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  • 120mph dial with steel case

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  • 120mph dial with steel case and polished steel bezel

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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAS118 View Post
    But you never put an non-triangled one up........

    Anyway, if its not to late to change them, couldn't the lettering for 'Great Britain' be lined up as minute markers - perhaps with bigger letters where the 5mins would be?
    That sounds horrible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    That sounds horrible...

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    Ah - but you never know until you see it ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Maybe the time to start adding opinions was BEFORE the final design was submitted for manufacture. I have no objection to trying to get it changed to triangle markers but nobody said much about them at the time.

    Eddie
    Thanks for trying to get a change...I, and I suspect the others, didn't realise you had submitted the finaldrawings.

    There were a few references to triangular markers in this thread:

    • #9 The triangular markers a cue from this dial...
    • #12 I really like the triangles in the minute track.
    • #22 the minute track and triangular markers, hands, yellow second hand and case shape are all good from my perspective
    • #136 but there's just one thing that I miss from the original designs: the triangular hour markers… It's only a small detail but I thought triangular markers were a really good feature to keep from the original speedometer dials,…
    • #139 I also really liked the triangular markers.
    • #142 …I agree with those who prefer the triangular markers…
    • #148 …I might try adding the triangle markers back having seen this…


    Looking forward to a very different watch.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Maybe the time to start adding opinions was BEFORE the final design was submitted for manufacture. I have no objection to trying to get it changed to triangle markers but nobody said much about them at the time.

    Eddie
    Eddie - apologies. I was trying to show people that there was a Smiths MA 5" odometer on the bike that didn't have triangle markings...


  5. #155
    That's the best looking TF watch yet (IMHO )
    I would/will definitely buy one of those!

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    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    ^^^^^^^

    Oh, Yes...please!

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    There was a documentary on the BBC last week about Pegasus Bridge in Normandy.
    There was a clear shot of a wartime motorbike with a similar speedo.

    I noticed it because it had the 0-10kph at the top of the dial, not the bottom as normal.
    This is the first time I have seen (or noticed) the zero at the top format.

    I didn't recognise the bike, but the speedo was similar to this one - so probably on a Royal Enfield
    http://nfieldgear.com/enfield-store/...eedometer.html



    Edit: I didn't realise that they went that fast - surely they would only need to use half that dial.
    Last edited by Reeny; 17th June 2014 at 14:40. Reason: How fast ???

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    I voted number 1 in the poll, but actually I like that bottom pic above.

    The only things I would change, is to lose the 5ATM(as a couple of others have commented, it has no place on this speedometer inspired dial IMO), and I also agree a one handed watch would have worked a treat here given the influence.

    I would certainly consider buying any of these mind you, very nice designs.

    Oh, and hello all, long time lurker but finally managed to register after so many failed attempts in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetlee View Post
    I voted number 1 in the poll, but actually I like that bottom pic above.

    The only things I would change, is to lose the 5ATM(as a couple of others have commented, it has no place on this speedometer inspired dial IMO), and I also agree a one handed watch would have worked a treat here given the influence.

    I would certainly consider buying any of these mind you, very nice designs.

    Oh, and hello all, long time lurker but finally managed to register after so many failed attempts in the past
    I think that you'll find that this is Eddie's final design:

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    He has already lost the '5 ATM' (as far as I can see) and changed the hour markers to triangles in response to our suggestions/requests. I don't think he'll want to do any more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    I think that you'll find that this is Eddie's final design:



    He has already lost the '5 ATM' (as far as I can see) and changed the hour markers to triangles in response to our suggestions/requests. I don't think he'll want to do any more...

    Ah yep, I saw that on facebook, have a terrible memory. I like this one, and will probably choose it over the Seafire.

    I still find this forum a bit confusing, the layout seems to change every time I view it.
    Last edited by Tetlee; 19th June 2014 at 11:55.

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    If that's the final then I'm very happy. It's extremely nice.
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    Eddie, congratulations, excellent, thanks for the last minute change to triangles.
    No. 16 for me please, and if possible a case back without the Black Shadow.
    When?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwrover View Post
    Eddie, congratulations, excellent, thanks for the last minute change to triangles.
    No. 16 for me please, and if possible a case back without the Black Shadow.
    When?

    Sell him a sticker to put over the Vincent!

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    Now thats a thought, I could put a BMW or a Land Rover sticker on it.
    But in due fairness that i wouldnt want either, but as mentioned before, it does not matter much, its only the backside of a very nice watch after all.

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    I think I might get one of these, motorbike case back or not (preferably not, though, Eddie - Any chance of a plain caseback option? ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    I think I might get one of these, motorbike case back or not (preferably not, though, Eddie - Any chance of a plain caseback option? ).

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    You could always have the back ground and polished once you've bought one. Otherwise it's back to post #166 and read on from there for my other suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    You could always have the back ground and polished once you've bought one. Otherwise it's back to post #166 and read on from there for my other suggestion.
    Indeed - It's Eddie's choice, as always, but a few blank case backs wouldn't be too expensive to have made as an option, I suspect

    I'm presuming, of course, that the back will start blank and be engraved. Would obviously be very different if it was cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    Indeed - It's Eddie's choice, as always, but a few blank case backs wouldn't be too expensive to have made as an option, I suspect

    I'm presuming, of course, that the back will start blank and be engraved. Would obviously be very different if it was cast.

    M.
    You never know, Eddie might just think that's a reasonable idea and sell you a blank version as an extra. I wouldn't think he will offer them as an alternative because the watches will be numbered on the case back (I believe).

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    This project started when a well-known motoring commentator and writer asked me if I was interested in a collaboration to make an homage to Vincent motorcycles, with the dial based on a Smiths speedometer design. I couldn't use the name "Vincent" on the watch because it's already registered but "Black Shadow" isn't. As an homageto a motorcycle, it's only right that it should have a motorcycle design on the case back.

    After I showed him a few early designs, I didn't hear from him again. u

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    That makes a lot of sense, but the Smiths Speedo is so ubiquitous.

    Something like this might well appeal to some.







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    Maybe a Ł26 see-though case back as an optional extra would keep everyone happy.
    Same as the PRS-5.

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    Never going to please everyone on an engraved caseback. I'm a biker and wouldn't want the initial caseback if there was an option without. Too many shifting brand loyalties within the biking fraternity for a long term tie in. Great looking watch though!

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    Check out which names are already registered before you make suggestions.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Check out which names are already registered before you make suggestions.

    Eddie
    If there is room for discussion, how about 'Chronometric'? It has connotations of time measurement, links the design to the instrument...I'm still looking for a suitable picture (thinking of a simple cut-away diagram).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    If there is room for discussion, how about 'Chronometric'? It has connotations of time measurement, links the design to the instrument...I'm still looking for a suitable picture (thinking of a simple cut-away diagram).
    Perhaps something along the lines of:


    courtesy of The Velobanjogent

    ...but without the text?

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    Nice, that caseback would make sense, its a homage to a SMITH speedo, and displayed proudly on all sorts of vintage vehicles, no matter if one rides a Black Shadow, an old Land Rover or something else.

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    Lovely idea and looks great - but if only it was a one-hander.

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    I'll be in for one of these but I'd really prefer a blank standard type Timefactors caseback as these Smiths clocks take me back to my Mini ownership days :-)

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    I'd be happy with an image of the Smiths speedometer dial that inspired the design on the case back, something like this...


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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    If there is room for discussion, how about 'Chronometric'? It has connotations of time measurement, links the design to the instrument...I'm still looking for a suitable picture (thinking of a simple cut-away diagram).
    As I've previously posted - nice name - only question is whether it implies chonometer-like timing.

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    Case back as envisaged please.

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    Mega wants

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    I've followed up my wallet loosening read through the Seafire thread with a read of this thread, which has had the same effect.

    This one looks terrific too, and I love the speedometer inspired look. I'm tempted to pick up both when they come out.

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    Interesting idea.
    Last edited by Markw; 5th November 2014 at 01:07.

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    Very interested in this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Check out which names are already registered before you make suggestions.

    Eddie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunscrossed View Post
    oh dear Perhaps not ideal.

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    They are no longer made and the trade mark has lapsed. The weren't registered in the classification for wrist watches anyway.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    The connection with dirty old bikes remains either way.

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    I must say - although I found the lack of a '12' marker a bit disconcerting - the more I look at this the more I like it.

    I know its going to be an Automatic - but does anyone know what movement is proposed for it?

    Thanks

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    You TF guys have got a hell of a sense of style. Maybe you're the people who should be talking to Roger Smith about the future of the British watch industry.

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    This the is the first non-diver that has really caught my attention for a good while. Definitely on my must have list

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAS118 View Post
    I must say - although I found the lack of a '12' marker a bit disconcerting - the more I look at this the more I like it.

    I know its going to be an Automatic - but does anyone know what movement is proposed for it?

    Thanks
    For all I know about the movement see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    For all I know about the movement see this.
    Cheers - that does make it even more desirable IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAS118 View Post
    Cheers - that does make it even more desirable IMHO
    It does indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    For all I know about the movement see this.
    Quote Originally Posted by KAS118 View Post
    Cheers - that does make it even more desirable IMHO
    I've not seen a post from Eddie to say he took up the offer. Best wait and see...fingers crossed.

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    I have just noticed these new Swatch 'speedo' inspired watches for next years collection (from Watch Insider). They seemed not to have gone for any logical notion on the dial of telling time. Obviously Eddie's are far more inspired, but thought it would be interesting to highlight that there is a developing of this idea / style in the wider watch world.







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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    I have just noticed these new Swatch 'speedo' inspired watches for next years collection (from Watch Insider). They seemed not to have gone for any logical notion on the dial of telling time. Obviously Eddie's are far more inspired, but thought it would be interesting to highlight that there is a developing of this idea / style in the wider watch world.






    Thanks - that's very interesting - not sure how you actually tell the time - or if the movement jumps backs - but even so its an intriguing watch - although given the choice of buying a Swatch or the Smiths Speedo I'd go for the Smiths :-)

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    That would be a very impressive watch if it was linked to a GPS system.
    Ideal for travelling passengers on trains, boats, buses.

    But if the dial can't tell you the time, and it can't tell you your speed - it's useless.

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