Reply With Quotei had a look at that forum the other week and it was pages and pages of heroes! which i think is a great sign to everybody on the forum old and new. it's almost like a piece of mind when making transactions through sc.
Not a lot of 'V' in the H&V....
Is this simply because we're all thoroughly decent chaps and chapesses or are we too scared to name and shame?
Rob
i had a look at that forum the other week and it was pages and pages of heroes! which i think is a great sign to everybody on the forum old and new. it's almost like a piece of mind when making transactions through sc.
i have seen afew villans in the past, i just think that they arnt aroud for long once named a villan!
Its one of the reasons people get upset at profiteering and ebay type behaviour on here; so many really decent folks and people who often go above and beyond the necessary. Things are given away to help each other out, watches sold at fair prices and so on. Its not all perfect obviously and as any one of the regular whingy threads will show, some guys are perfectly happy with it being a free market buyer beware type of environment but thats not a V offence rather a choice as to whether one wants to deal on those terms with such individuals.
I've probably done close to 200 deals here including minor stuff like straps - all but 4 were just about perfect.
I've had 3 instances where what I bought was in need of repair / not quite as described and one where a seller was expecting more from a vintage watch than was realistic. All were amicably resolved.
I avoid the Villains
H&V is a very useful resource.
Andy
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I admire the h&v section , it is something useful for other forums to consider , I have consulted it , there are a lot of heroes here :)
had another look albeit quickly the only villain i seen was a business trader that deals in the trade. if i was a bona fide qualified watchmaker/repairer i wouldn't be too happy if something arrived in the post faulty and no redress to get it replaced.
I like the idea of it - you can email/text/phone the seller, but seeing that other people have had a good experience is very reassuring.
Once a villain is exposed they don't stay long
Gray
threads where member x has a possible complaint run into pages and pages, so i think people strive to ensure there is no problem with a deal
also it might well be that plenty of deals aren't great, but both parties agree a resolution, either full of partial refund
if bought a watch i wasn't happy with and the seller agreed to take it back, i wouldn't leave a bad H&V - this MIGHT happen more then we think
There's very rarely a villain post which,i think,speaks highly for both forum & it's members. Even when a deal isn't quite as it should be i suspect that 99% of the time the two people involved just quietly sort it out between themselves without any hystrionics.
As already mentioned,people who take the whatsit or who cause trouble soon become apparent and their target audience is massively reduced.
I'd done a couple of small deals on SC when I found a good looking 5513 for ~£3k. I'd decided that I wanted to buy it but was a complete noob to TZ (still am for that matter!).
I searched H&V to do a little research on the seller, and although there wasn't loads of feedback for him on there, at least there was some.
So although I felt a little nervous as this was the first relatively high value item I'd bought from SC, I went ahead and transfered the money based on a couple of emails with the guy and the recommendations he'd had on H&V.
Needless to say the watch was completely as described and the seller was a good bloke (I met him in person to collect to alleviate any lingering nervousness I had). However my point is that I doubt I'd have gone ahead without the H&V section.
Definitely a very useful resource.
Thats just totally bizarre....Originally Posted by hsukirk
It works nicely as a way to check a member's 'previous form' by doing a quick search. An excellent facility IMO.
Paul
I'd certainly agree with the timewasters and lowballers. Thankfully not that many villains.
Some things that aren't shown in H&V,
timewasters, not villains but they are ... timewasters
traders, not necessarlliy a real problem, but using the forum as a business outlet
pawn brokers, as with traders but you can't be really sure if the items have shall we say 'good heritage'
tossers .... in this category I put those that don't do what they say, when they say they are going to do it, and just show very little respect for the other party in the deal or the deal being done. e.g people that make you wait for a week for no good reason before they send the watch out(if you've sent thousands in a bank transfer this could be very worrying), promise to amend the situation then don't.
All of the above characters can have glowing reports on H+V, so while H+V is useful it does not show the whole picture.
As newbies people come on and think that H+V shows the whole picture but as has been said there is a lot goes on behind closed doors.
There are a lot of true gents on here and unfortunately as with a lot in life it is sometimes spoiled by the minority.
You could add to your list rude people.
This should be a catagory of it's own for members who don't even inform you when they have received a watch or the likes from the OP,it's not hard to type a quick pm is it.
eastenders is on
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
Not here..........
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
10 mins yet. Stop getting all excited,lol.
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
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