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    Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    I have been in Tokyo, and I went to Biccamera. I had seen it before in the web, but you never know. Sometimes pictures do not reflect the reality of the watch. Usually, it dissapoints when in the flesh. Not on this case. So 3400 euros later, I was the proud owner of this:





    What is it? A modern reinterpretation of the Rolex Explorer. With a twist.



    and another twist:



    and on:






    and on:



    (btw, have you noticed the bad shock pictogram? :) )

    The finish of the dial is gorgeous. And so hard to picture it!









    Anyway.... here you have a few shots:





    Btw (how many btws?), have you noticed the Grand Seiko logo in the display back?







    Oh, well some more shots:











    I know, I know, very pic-heavy. But in Spain we have a phrase: one image is worth more than one thousand words

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    That is chuffing GORGEOUS!

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    That's gorgeous.
    When I joined here I just didn't get seiko at all.
    I think I was wrong.

    I'm really coming round to the GS offerings, and so far that is one of the nices I've seen. You must be made up.

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    I really like this, thanks for the write up. The dial macros really show the attention to detail, beautiful. I also like the image in the display back :)

    Does it have an independently adjustable hour hand? Speaking of the hands I guess the fine black inlay is to improve legibility against the white dial under certain light conditions? Nice touch.

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Stunning pics of a fantastic watch

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    Wow, some amazing finishing on that, lovely piece!

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    Gorgeous :drunken:

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    OUTSTANDING!

    Your watch and pics are absolutely top shelf. Thanks so much for the BEAUTIFUL post. It's going to be a good day! :D

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    Very nice detailing and build quality. Classy.

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    Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Lovely! Been looking at these on Seiya but seems a lot cheaper to buy them in Japan. Another reason to try to go there!

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    That is really rather nice. The photos are excellent too. Thank you very much for posting.

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    Amazing pictures of a beautiful watch ! :) Congrats, it is stunning. The GSs are great watches, and something you don't see everyday

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    WOW! GS's just were not on my radar until this little beauty :o

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    Lovely watch, but can you explain to a philistine like me what the blue hand is for.

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    That is wonderful.

    So that's a Dornbluth AND a Grand Seiko I somehow need to fit into my future watch collection.. hm... I best get saving!

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    That dial is quite astonishing. And, relative to some Swiss brands, it looks like really good value too.

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    Beautiful. Does this one have the spring drive movement?
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    The bezel itself makes the feeling of these two completely different..originally I thought that they share the same case but it seems not. Love your pix!








    and one of my dream


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    Thanks for the post and the pictures - I particularly love the photo with the "ghost" logo on the display back. GS watches are beautifully put together and go completely unnoticed in the outside world and that's why I love them. Some of the more flashy ones with too many subdials / gadgets / power reserve indicators are a bit busy for me, but this one with very few obvious complications is very nice indeed.

    By the way, I got mine throught the Seiko store in Amsterdam. Very helpful service from there and they love their Seiko watches. Far more pleasant than going to a big department store in London and a lot cheaper than flying to Japan to buy it.

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    Wow that's an absolutely beautiful watch - and so well photographed too. Lovely, thanks for showing us :)

    Rod

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Almost perfect, but for me spoilt by the (IMO) ugly crown guards. Nevertheless a fantastic watch, and equally fantastic photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly
    Almost perfect, but for me spoilt by the (IMO) ugly crown guards.
    Funny that. To me, they're one of the most attractive parts of the watch.

    (Not a criticism in any way. It's just interesting how different tastes can be.)

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    Lovely photos on my 22" monitor - shame the watch is only 1.5" wide in the flesh ;). Could do with some lume on the hands and indices to make it a proper Explorer alternative - few GSs have it for some reason.
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    .
    I told this story here before but with the search malfunctioning I cannot find it …

    I remember the first time I saw a GS (it was the black dial GMT) about 7-8 years ago, probably even longer. Something glistened to my eye from across a busy room, I wondered what it was, but soon forgot about it. Later on in the evening I was trying to squeeze between some people and chairs, and found my eyes within inches of this magnificent Seiko. I only had 2-3 seconds on it but I knew that I was looking at something different. Now I knew what the glistening was. It made me look at the wearer (I think he was Malaysian) in a different light. The rest is history.

    I can fully understand the desire in WISdom for mechanicals tho own my heart lays with the SBGA011 ... but as far as the mechanicals are concerned, the GS GMT is most certainly the prettiest.

    Wear it non-stop for next 6 months and gives us the lowdown.

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    Oh.... my.... word!

    I've only given Grand Seiko a cursory glance before, but this is stunning. I should think most of us here are extremely envious :D

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew
    Lovely photos on my 22" monitor - shame the watch is only 1.5" wide in the flesh ;). Could do with some lume on the hands and indices to make it a proper Explorer alternative - few GSs have it for some reason.




    GS lume. Certainly rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew
    Lovely photos on my 22" monitor - shame the watch is only 1.5" wide in the flesh ;). Could do with some lume on the hands and indices to make it a proper Explorer alternative - few GSs have it for some reason.
    'Traditional' Grand Seikos do not include lume as this is a component of the watch that will deteriorate over time. The idea was that your GS will last a lifetime, and look as good on your corpse as the day you bought it. OK, maybe that last bit isn't quite right.

    The modern sporty 'nouveau' GS models have lume (and SD, and all sorts of new fangled gimmicky contraptions) but the classic GS models are still lume-free. As god intended.

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    Congratulations!
    I always wondered how the white dial looks in real and now I know. Great photos.

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Wow that is beautiful, very classy indeed.

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    That is somewhat attractive I must admit. Not too bad on price either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    .
    I told this story here before but with the search malfunctioning I cannot find it …

    I remember the first time I saw a GS (it was the black dial GMT) about 7-8 years ago, probably even longer. Something glistened to my eye from across a busy room, I wondered what it was, but soon forgot about it. Later on in the evening I was trying to squeeze between some people and chairs, and found my eyes within inches of this magnificent Seiko. I only had 2-3 seconds on it but I knew that I was looking at something different. Now I knew what the glistening was. It made me look at the wearer (I think he was Malaysian) in a different light. The rest is history.
    You are funny, John - if someone posted that about a Rolex you'd laugh them off the forum :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    .
    I told this story here before but with the search malfunctioning I cannot find it …

    I remember the first time I saw a GS (it was the black dial GMT) about 7-8 years ago, probably even longer. Something glistened to my eye from across a busy room, I wondered what it was, but soon forgot about it. Later on in the evening I was trying to squeeze between some people and chairs, and found my eyes within inches of this magnificent Seiko. I only had 2-3 seconds on it but I knew that I was looking at something different. Now I knew what the glistening was. It made me look at the wearer (I think he was Malaysian) in a different light. The rest is history.
    You are funny, John - if someone posted that about a Rolex you'd laugh them off the forum :lol:
    Rolex don't bling like that. Swiss 'shiny' tends to be 'rounded'. GS shiny has a hard edge to it. Now we know Seiko use some sort of special technique ...

    Anyone who gets impressed by a Rolex just hasn't seen enough Rolex. And he has to be on Mars to avoid Rolex. :blackeye:

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Quote Originally Posted by jason recliner
    Quote Originally Posted by andrew
    Lovely photos on my 22" monitor - shame the watch is only 1.5" wide in the flesh ;). Could do with some lume on the hands and indices to make it a proper Explorer alternative - few GSs have it for some reason.
    'Traditional' Grand Seikos do not include lume as this is a component of the watch that will deteriorate over time. The idea was that your GS will last a lifetime, and look as good on your corpse as the day you bought it. OK, maybe that last bit isn't quite right.
    Fair point, but how will the wabi-sabi brigade get their coffee-colours kicks now? ;)

    Does SuperLuminova (or whatever the Seiko equivalent is - LumiBrite?) actually age? I've seen plenty of pictures of 12-13 year old watches from the days when SL took over from tritium, and it invariably looks as bright as the new stuff.
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    That is simply stunning... I love it !

    8)

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    That is absolutely gorgeous, i am smitten with the GS diver and really want one, again this is just as gorgeous, could i ask what its sizes are please, best wishes mark

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    The attention to detail is amazing. Congratulations

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    Damn thats pretty!

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    Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    So beautiful - truly.
    Thank you for those fantastic pictures.

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    Lovely looking watch, fantastic pics, your the man when it comes to watch pics on here Jose 8)

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    Thanks for the comments, guys. I am really very happy with it and have worn it non stop for 10 days (now it is in the rotation cycle of the favourites).


    Quote Originally Posted by Plake
    Does it have an independently adjustable hour hand?
    Yes, the hour hand sets independently AND is also used to change the date.

    Quote Originally Posted by mark563
    could i ask what its sizes are please, best wishes mark
    38.5mm without crown...

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    as far as the mechanicals are concerned, the GS GMT is most certainly the prettiest. john
    Just for you John:





    Quote Originally Posted by alan2273
    Lovely watch, but can you explain to a philistine like me what the blue hand is for.
    It is the GMT/24 hours hand

    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe
    Beautiful. Does this one have the spring drive movement?
    No, the automatic movement seen above...

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly
    Almost perfect, but for me spoilt by the (IMO) ugly crown guards. Nevertheless a fantastic watch, and equally fantastic photos.
    Ah, the crown guards again. I love them although I understand ithey are controversial. In fact, it is the second GS I have with the same crown guards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl
    Lovely looking watch, fantastic pics, your the man when it comes to watch pics on here Jose 8)
    Thanks Karl but you know that´s an overstatement. :wink:

    I forgot to mention I was with a WISfriend on Saturday and he was ashtonished by the watch. He thought it was a Vacheron Constantin just for the finish of the dial....

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Is the booklet tellIng you not to wear it to play golf?

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    I gotta say,that is a fine, fine thing indeed. I can feel an itch coming on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan2273
    Lovely watch, but can you explain to a philistine like me what the blue hand is for.
    In combination with the 24hr dial and the fact that the watch has "GMT" on the dial, it would be a second timezone.
    Handy for the travellers amongst us.

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    This is one outstanding piece!!! Congratulations, i miss biccamera :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Quote Originally Posted by mark563
    could i ask what its sizes are please, best wishes mark
    38.5mm without crown...
    Dammit dammit dammit... Too small for my manly wrist! Lovely watch though. Really lovely watch. Every time someone takes detail shots of these Seikos it makes me want one more.
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    Now THAT is one FINE watch! Love those Grand Seiko's!

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    Stunning watch and photos and the finish and attention to detail is sublime! I can't wait to own my very own GS one day. Enjoy.

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    beautiful watch, the quality is indeed in the detail

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    Re: Grans Seiko SBGM025 mini review

    Very nice indeed.
    I think I need to look through the GS range in more detail.
    Like the Spring Drive principle but prefer not to have the power reserve (or Spring Drive text) on the dial.
    That auto just looks stunning.

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