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    So what is the best homage ever made ?

    As above, what in your opinion is the best overall homage watch ever made and why ?

    The homage needs to be a copy or a homage of a watch that has been discontinued.

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    Kenzo Nautilus :mrgreen:



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    Better made than most watches costing 3-4 times as much, and this version has the 7750 movement too. In my personal opinion, it is better looking than any model Panerai make.

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    I like my mk II

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    I shall take a photo of my favourite and post a pic tomorrow.

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    Re: So what is the best homage ever made ?

    Since the OT does not define ´homage´ I will suggest my favorites the way Í interprete what an homage is:

    1. The Rolex Explorer; homaging among other explorations, the ascend of the Everest by Hillary with his Smith and Tenzing with his Rolex.

    2. Seiko homaging their first digital watch with their first EPD.

    3. The Vostok 1967 homaging a remarkable dive watch in truely exemplary way.

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    So what is the best homage ever made ?

    Quote Originally Posted by adigra


    Better made than most watches costing 3-4 times as much, and this version has the 7750 movement too. In my personal opinion, it is better looking than any model Panerai make.
    Can one buy one of these still?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Kenzo Nautilus :mrgreen:



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    I will not even go there :mrgreen:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart
    Quote Originally Posted by adigra

    Better made than most watches costing 3-4 times as much, and this version has the 7750 movement too. In my personal opinion, it is better looking than any model Panerai make.
    Can one buy one of these still?
    They pop up occasionally on the forums.

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    sb3
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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart
    Quote Originally Posted by adigra

    Better made than most watches costing 3-4 times as much, and this version has the 7750 movement too. In my personal opinion, it is better looking than any model Panerai make.
    Can one buy one of these still?
    They pop up occasionally on the forums.
    The company which made them doesn't exist any more. They do come up every once in a while, but more often in the US, and the 7750 model is harder to come by. Took me about 6 months to get this one (on SC) from the time I started looking.

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    I should have been more specific; they pop up occasionally on the sales fora (but only second hand)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    I should have been more specific; they pop up occasionally on the sales fora (but only second hand)
    I know what you meant, sorry, I wasn't correcting you, I was just elaborating as I thought Stuart wondered if you could buy them new.

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    So what is the best homage ever made ?

    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart
    Quote Originally Posted by adigra

    Better made than most watches costing 3-4 times as much, and this version has the 7750 movement too. In my personal opinion, it is better looking than any model Panerai make.
    Can one buy one of these still?
    They pop up occasionally on the forums.
    The company which made them doesn't exist any more. They do come up every once in a while, but more often in the US, and the 7750 model is harder to come by. Took me about 6 months to get this one (on SC) from the time I started looking.
    I agree with your opinion. Very, very nice.

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    So what is the best homage ever made ?

    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    I should have been more specific; they pop up occasionally on the sales fora (but only second hand)
    I know what you meant, sorry, I wasn't correcting you, I was just elaborating as I thought Stuart wondered if you could buy them new.
    Yes I was wondering that. Thanks both for your replies.

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    Re: So what is the best homage ever made ?

    Actually, they do still exist ---> http://www.rxw.jp/eng

    I have that 7750 milgraph and agree that it is a great watch. So much so, that i picked up a mm25 gmt as well. Over the years, they have made some interesting and odd homages.
    Here's a link to some of them --> http://www.antiwatchman.com/search.php?NAM=R.X.W



    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart
    Quote Originally Posted by adigra

    Better made than most watches costing 3-4 times as much, and this version has the 7750 movement too. In my personal opinion, it is better looking than any model Panerai make.
    Can one buy one of these still?
    They pop up occasionally on the forums.
    The company which made them doesn't exist any more. They do come up every once in a while, but more often in the US, and the 7750 model is harder to come by. Took me about 6 months to get this one (on SC) from the time I started looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    I should have been more specific; they pop up occasionally on the sales fora (but only second hand)
    I know what you meant, sorry, I wasn't correcting you, I was just elaborating as I thought Stuart wondered if you could buy them new.
    No need to be sorry :lol: Standing back, I can see, that my answer was not exactly clear, as to whether or not the Plasmir Milgraph was available from new :mrgreen:

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    Nissan 240Z. :)

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    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'

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    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'
    May I then ask why you are a member of TZ-UK?

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    Re: So what is the best homage ever made ?

    The Rolex submariner is an excellent homage to the Blancpain FF. Or is it the other way round?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'
    You might not find too many agreeing with you on that one here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'
    May I then ask why you are a member of TZ-UK?
    Because I appreciate nice watches, be they Rolex, Omega, Patek etc. I didnt know you had to be a lover of 'homage' watches to belong?

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    Well this is pretty damn good



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    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'
    May I then ask why you are a member of TZ-UK?
    Because I appreciate nice watches, be they Rolex, Omega, Patek etc. I didnt know you had to be a lover of 'homage' watches to belong?
    You do realise that Eddie of Time Factors, who produce mostly homages, pays for and runs TZ-UK? By your logic you would come into someone's home, eat their food, and tell them how you dislike them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'

    Half agree with that to be honest.
    Not for all 'homages' though.
    I'm all for the smaller brands utilising new design features, fresh materials and developments in watchmaking pioneered by some of the bigger, richer brands. It keeps the industry going. The big names break barriers, then the smaller brands catch up.

    I HATE the 'Rotary's' of this world though, who just make cheap versions of some of the best recognised high end watches out of cheap materials and assembled in the Far East (yes yes, some expensive watches are assembled out there too... :roll: ). The Rotary 'Navitimer', the Rotary 'Tank Francais', the rotary 'Daytona', etc etc etc.
    Alpha are guilty of it too with the Submariner 'homages', but I'm really not getting back into it with the Alpha owners. :roll:

    Homage = Lazy cashing in?
    Homage = Utilising high-end brands designs and bringing to the larger lower end market?

    Hmmmmm.... The war rages on. :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Quote Originally Posted by adigra
    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'
    May I then ask why you are a member of TZ-UK?
    Because I appreciate nice watches, be they Rolex, Omega, Patek etc. I didnt know you had to be a lover of 'homage' watches to belong?
    You do realise that Eddie of Time Factors, who produce mostly homages, pays for and runs TZ-UK? By your logic you would come into someone's home, eat their food, and tell them how you dislike them...
    Of course I realise that, I am not thick and have bought stuff from Eddie, it is the same if you come onto my forum and knock the things I love isnt it? I wouldnt get upset though, I would try and enter into a adult discussion with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevkojak
    Quote Originally Posted by billtr96sn
    Personally, I think that homages are the 'nice' way of saying 'We couldnt be arsed to design our own so will cash in on others design work'

    Half agree with that to be honest.
    Not for all 'homages' though.
    I'm all for the smaller brands utilising new design features, fresh materials and developments in watchmaking pioneered by some of the bigger, richer brands. It keeps the industry going. The big names break barriers, then the smaller brands catch up.

    I HATE the 'Rotary's' of this world though, who just make cheap versions of some of the best recognised high end watches out of cheap materials and assembled in the Far East (yes yes, some expensive watches are assembled out there too... :roll: ). The Rotary 'Navitimer', the Rotary 'Tank Francais', the rotary 'Daytona', etc etc etc.
    Alpha are guilty of it too with the Submariner 'homages', but I'm really not getting back into it with the Alpha owners. :roll:

    Homage = Lazy cashing in?
    Homage = Utilising high-end brands designs and bringing to the larger lower end market?

    Hmmmmm.... The war rages on. :wink:
    This is more of what I meant to say.

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    For a real homage Panerai's Pam 232 to the original 1938 watch.

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    Re: So what is the best homage ever made ?

    Could we stay on topic, if you have not got love for the homage then this is not the thread to tell us, start your own thread.

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    My Favorite (owned so far)

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    Re: So what is the best homage ever made ?

    Quote Originally Posted by studly
    Could we stay on topic, if you have not got love for the homage then this is not the thread to tell us, start your own thread.
    Please explain how you define ´homage´. I gave three réal homage examples and so did others. I get the impression that you mean only the meaning some might call legal copy. Please expand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla
    Quote Originally Posted by studly
    Could we stay on topic, if you have not got love for the homage then this is not the thread to tell us, start your own thread.
    Please explain how you define ´homage´. I gave three réal homage examples and so did others. I get the impression that you mean only the meaning some might call legal copy. Please expand.
    Ah i take it that you are the homage police.

    Did i say "homage" ? i meant "Homo" as in "what do you think is the best homo watch".

    Seriously though my definition of a homage is when a company brings out a watch of their own in homage of a watch that has been discontinued.

    I will amend the first post.

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    Took delivery of my shiny new PRS-20 today and it is simply stunning.

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    PRS-29A

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    PRS28



    Perhaps the most original homage ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Tokei
    PRS28

    Perhaps the most original homage ever.

    Paul
    The Vostok Radio Room was way earlier and thus - original.
    Some wis had an homage of the original homage made by Vostok. Basically the only difference is that they opted for an automatic.
    The original is VERY sought after.

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    True, but is there a dial variant not seen on a Vostok :wink:

    Paul

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    Kingston 8)

    I wipe my arse with Vostoks BTW..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Kingston 8)

    I wipe my arse with Vostoks BTW..........

    Daddel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Kingston 8)

    I wipe my arse with Vostoks BTW..........

    Daddel.
    I was just going to say Kingston. Apart from the crown which unfortunately is such an important part of the watch the rest was executed superbly. If Bill had got the crown right I think it would be unbeatable as far as homages go.

    Until you see the Kingston dial in person you cannot appreciate what a step up it is from other watches ( including very expensive ones ) around at the moment. Any homages in future to a Rolex gilt watch that doesn't use that method of dial etching will always be a very poor second to the Kingston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siggy
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Kingston 8)

    I wipe my arse with Vostoks BTW..........

    Daddel.
    I was just going to say Kingston. Apart from the crown which unfortunately is such an important part of the watch the rest was executed superbly. If Bill had got the crown right I think it would be unbeatable as far as homages go.

    Until you see the Kingston dial in person you cannot appreciate what a step up it is from other watches ( including very expensive ones ) around at the moment. Any homages in future to a Rolex gilt watch that doesn't use that method of dial etching will always be a very poor second to the Kingston.

    regards

    siggy
    You mean the crown being to far off the case?, leaving some space between it and the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Quote Originally Posted by siggy
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Kingston 8)

    I wipe my arse with Vostoks BTW..........

    Daddel.
    I was just going to say Kingston. Apart from the crown which unfortunately is such an important part of the watch the rest was executed superbly. If Bill had got the crown right I think it would be unbeatable as far as homages go.

    Until you see the Kingston dial in person you cannot appreciate what a step up it is from other watches ( including very expensive ones ) around at the moment. Any homages in future to a Rolex gilt watch that doesn't use that method of dial etching will always be a very poor second to the Kingston.

    regards

    siggy
    You mean the crown being to far off the case?, leaving some space between it and the case?

    Daddel.

    I think that is the perceived problem but I think the actual crown was not beveled to a great enough angle if you understand my meaning.

    If this angle had been increased it would seem flow into the tube more rather than be so abrupt. If the signed side of the crown was also made a little deeper to match the beveled side I think I would have balanced out the crown, made it look much more like the original and given the watch much more character. I repeat my view on the dial though, superb. I have a Tudor Hydronaut gilt dial, the Kingston dial produced by that unusual method gives a far greater impression of quality.

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewan.w
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    That's definately a contender - I liked mine so much I sold it to buy an original! Is it a hommage though?

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    REally happy with this Ray Knight homage..... with an upgrade or 2 :wink:


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    My personal favourites....

    1) Sandoz Explorer 369



    2) SBIII



    3) Steinhart Ocean One


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    RXW Exp1evo for me:


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    Quote Originally Posted by SplitSecond
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    That reminds me, I wonder how the ZEX project is proceeding............... :blackeye: .. :mrgreen:

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