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Sky are going way over the top about this game. I get that it's an important fixture for those two teams, but does it really require a 5 day countdown with never ending interviews and debates?
The World Cup final is only 9 months away and they haven't even started one for that yet.
Agreed. Touted as a North West derby...but it's not really. United V's City yes, Liverpool V's Everton yes.
United V's Liverpool, there is a little bit of rivalry and bad blood but it's just another league game, I get really fed up with the TV channels trying to make it out to be an almighty clash of titans.
I'm getting a bit bored of the hype but it's the biggest Premier League fixture of the year, this and the return obviously.
Sky sports are pathetic and try to hype everything. Red Monday last year wasn’t it? Shut up sky.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzo697
The World Cup will be minimal coverage however given they don’t have the rights.
I despise everything they represent in football. Hypocrite though as I have the channels.
A 'little' bit of rivalry?Quote:
Originally Posted by kevkojak
Guffaw!
I'd have to use Bear Pit words in the G&D to discuss it more...
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Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory
Sorry, I was thinking in MCFC terms - both sides turn into pansies when the Citizens roll into town.
I'd say there are more important fixtures with regards to who wins the league and there are certainly other clubs that dislike each as much or probably more.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory
That'll be your first mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevkojak
<I really ought to add a smiley at this point but I can't find a suitable one>
There may well be this year. It will probably end up being more important to take points off our Manchester cousins than the *****s at the wrong end of the East Lancs Road but, taking them as individual games I know which one I want to win most.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzo697
Not in this country*. Maybe in Scotland or Argentina...Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzo697
*edit: We're not keen on leeds either.
I guess you've never been to a West Ham - Millwall game and I think Spurs and Arsenal fans would disagree too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory
Every other match is a derby of some sort in that London.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzo697
They hardly count.
(and it's been a while since West Ham and Millwall have faced each other in a league fixture)
While I agree Sky have gone over the top the tie has always been labelled as the north west derby - I would suggest that it is a massive game between the two most succesfull clubs in this country with the biggest fan base therefore the market for both sides is there - Liverpool through the 80s and Utd thereafter - there is a fierce rivalry between the two clubs and I would bet you anything you like of you was to ask a fan of either club what is there biggest game of the season then both would say this game. Its born out of respect ultimately for what either side have achieved.
Im a 40 something year old man born in manchester in the mid 70s and supported Utd through the 80s when Liverpool won everything in fact the vast majority of my mates are Liverpool fans due to that reason - I was brought up watching Liverpool dominate and despised there glory (Jealousy) and likewise Ive seen the same hatred towards Utd in latter years when weve been sucesfull.
The rivalry between utd and city is nowhere near on a par most city fans have only jumped on the band wagon in recent times and as such there isnt the same competiveness to the fixture and likewise I would suggest Liverpool-Everton are often split between families and the rivalry is different where as utd v Liverpool in the main is hatred so I can see why Sky are doing it.
I had a season ticket for many years and have been fortunate to see Utd play in many of the biggest stadia in Europe - San Siro, Bernabeau, Nou Camp, Allianz, Celtic Park as well as all of the recent premier away grounds and Ive never been more intimidated than going to Anfield the atmosphere as an away fan there really makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up - Ive been pelted with coins and been locked in the ground for 90 minutes after and trust me that police escort back to the station is scary - I assure you the atmosphere is Vile between the two sets of fans and Id never take my kids to an away game at anfield - Again I think theres an under currant of respect at the core but there is no other game like it if your a fan of either side.
Look at the amount of business the two clubs have done with each other the years 1964 was the last time the two clubs did business - look at how players have left and then joined the rivals as an example look how Liverpool fans view Owen or Utd fans view Ince as an example, it is without doubt the most important game of the season to both clubs all be it not the most vital and I think its as close as you will get to Celtic Rangers in the UK (Im sure the geordies would disagree, or the Spurs v Arsenal Derby as an example) but as a UTD fan definitely not the case
That said Sky are completely milking it ......
PS Utd 2-1
And what a game that was… yawn!Quote:
Originally Posted by senwar
I'm fully expecting us to get spanked with our defence making the usual crap decisions, and individual players (yes Lovren and Can, I'm talking to you) flapping and lunging like stranded fish on a muddy river bank.
I'm glad I don't have Sky and I'm too busy on Saturday to watch it anyway.
I still want us to beat the s**t out of them though :eagerness:
pffft
It'd be more apt if they were showing it on The History Channel.
HA HA both sides have some so it would be fitting :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thegoat
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Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory
There is this one... :pottytrain2:
I was only having a laugh anyway, I like the MU/Liverpool fixture and usually turn out for a few pints.
To be fair, your comment about City fans jumping on the bandwagon was the best bit for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by R0bertb00th
Hopefully , you and the other umpteen gazillion fans of the "worlds biggest football rivalry" (TM) will enjoy Saturdays hoof fest . May the team with the bestest history triumph . 😂😂😂
Im only having banter pal calm down - City are a great side and without doubt the team to beat - whoever ends above them will win it in my opinion but the johnny come lately is a fact - glory hunters are inevitable - liverpool had them, my era of utd fans there are plenty, chelsea and now city its a factQuote:
Originally Posted by thegoat
Ps I was in the Kippax for the mainroad massacre 5-1 city as a young boy that has stayed with me ever since
Trust me on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by R0bertb00th
However many massacres you've witnessed City giving United, I've been on the receiving end of many many more from both your lot and the Scousers.
I too, am only having a bit of fun.
It does irk me about the coverage Sky are giving this. It does smack f pandering to a global armchair fan but hey, ratings are king eh?
The game? Whilst neither team are giving me sleepless nights, I think United will scrape this one. Liverpools defence is shocking and without Mane, they really don't have many decent options upfront.
If , God forbid, Mourhino stops thinking about himself and opts to let United off the leash, I think they'll step up again. Luckily enough, Ibrahimovic will be back soon and those two hyper inflated egos will ensure United two best players, Rashford and Martial , will be back on the bench .
Spot on
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It does irk me about the coverage Sky are giving this. It does smack of pandering to a global armchair fan but hey, ratings are king
I remember them doing a Super Sunday a few years ago in which the full day of fixtures games mustered a single goal. They were ripped to shreds.
Football is a crazy game. I hate the hype. But I don't have Sky Sports anymore so at least I don't see it all the time anymore.
Hopefully this year it will actually be a goal fest with the teams and their respective attacking and defensive abilities on show... but probably not.
One of the many reasons that this match is getting hyped like billy-o is no doubt down to the fact that BARB (Broadcasters' Audience Research Board) reckons that Saturday lunchtime fixtures receive the least number of viewers, so a 'huge' game like this is pretty much wasted in that timeslot...
...and there's advertising to sell, of course.
It’s historically the biggest game in the country and rivalry wise still is. If Liverpool had had more success in the last 20 years or so it probably would be up there with the el Classico.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevkojak
You make me think - back in the 90s when middle-aged men would go on about how great the 60s and 70s to me, I would think 'yeah whatever grand-dad'.Quote:
Originally Posted by R0bertb00th
To teenagers and people under 25, Liverpool as a footballing superpower seem seem as distance as ww2.
Just found this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37673147
Apparently it's all to do with a canal, and I can't find anything that suggests that it's anything more than local rivalry. It's certainly not as intense as some of the other rivalries where fans have died.
Ultimately I think most fans will think my rivalry is worse than your rivalry.
It wasn't just any canal. The Manchester Ship Canal s opening meant large cargo ships could travel directly to the cotton mills and industrial areas of Manchester instead of unloading at Liverpool docks ( where half of it would go missing 😉, that's a joke btw) .Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzo697
Obviously the dockers weren't best pleased and the bad feeling spread throughput the Liverpool area,hence the inter city rivalry ever since.
To pin it down as LFC v Man Utd is shoddy journalism at best and more likely downright fantasy.
Agreed, so Sky should also be hyping City- Everton. It's interesting that dock/trade disputes are also responsible for rivalries between Portsmouth-Southampton, West Ham-Millwall and Newcastle-Sunderland.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegoat
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Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory
I'm Liverpool through and through, Liverpool vs man u has always been and remains intense to say the least. 2009 Millwall went to West Ham (League Cup), I was working in London at time and went to the ground, it was insane - a throwback to the 70's, never seen anything like it for many many a year.
Think they're only hyping it up so much this year because for the first time in a while, it's not some meaningless mid table clash.😄
Malc
Just switched on, have I missed much?
The score suggests not...
Not as much as Salah.. Liverpool should be couple goals up.
I'm at my dad's (who has sky) - no wonder so many of you are complaining on the sky thread if you are paying £100 a month or so to watch that.
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Originally Posted by LRB255
Great 'eh? :eagerness:
Had it on some Sky app on the iPad and ended up hanging pictures in the hall instead, says it all really.
Well that was utter dire.
If that was the biggest game of the season I'm glad I prefer egg chasing these days.
Still top boys :joyous:Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil.C
What a load of utter rubbish
Irony is the BBC have stuck it last on MOTD running order. Doesn't even deserve that. Dire - zero entertainment
Even Lineker alluded to it in his pre match waffle .Quote:
Originally Posted by dandanthewatchman
Utter utter garbage . No entertainment, no goals , no football .
Cheers Jose 👍
Meanwhile at City yesterday...yawwwwnnnn. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegoat
Terrible game , wish I hadn't watched it . Although Liverpool tried to play a bit of football
I watched the 1sh half, then gave up, Carragher said beforehand MU wouldn't go there to play attacking football, he was right.