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I recently asked Barclays the question 'If you have to have a minimum of £100k in savings to qualify for premier banking then who insures the bit above £85k?'
They dont but assure me many customers have significant amounts over £85k with them so wondered if anyone here splits cash amongst banks to make sure they are £85k and below or messes about opening multiple accounts?
I did, seemed a sensible move. Not a huge amount but worth doing if something unpleasant happens to a bank or building society
I Split my savings up to bring it below the threshold highly unlikely a bank will go under but the way things are these days you never know
I asked Lloyds a similar question regarding offset mortgages, as the amounts in offsets can be way over £86k, they have never given me a definite answer
Joint accoint doubles it.
You could always invest the excess into shares to maintain full cover on the £85k in cash, otherwise I'd invest it elsewhere as the risk is small but easily avoidable.
And an account in the wife's name triples itQuote:
Originally Posted by Christian
I don't think so. My understanding is the limit is £85k per person, per registered institution (which as rightly pointed out earlier doesn't mean per individual bank!). It's not per account. So yes both your protection (£170k total) can apply to a joint account, but you're still limited in total to £85k each across all your accounts with that provider. So I don't think you can triple it.Quote:
Originally Posted by demonloop
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£85k? Savings? The stuff of dreams….
Still on a fixed rate mortgage for 1.5 years. Better to build the mortgage war-chest in a savings account/take the risk of premium bonds rather than pay off that 1.4% loan!Quote:
Originally Posted by deanlad
I would never go over the £85k, why take the risk however small.
That said I'd never hold that much cash ... I'd invest it ...
I’ve had premier for years, they just gave it to me. I’ve never had anywhere close to £100k invested or in account with them.
If the FSCS limit bothers you either put some into Barclays stockbrokers (I assume that counts) or pay the fee for the premier account (I think that’s still an option).
But honestly - I’m not sure premier offers much of value.
I already have Premier and its worth having sometimes, I just don’t understand how people have over £85k deal with it, accept risk or split.Quote:
Originally Posted by stooo
Regarding investing well with ISA doing 4.7% tax free its doing about as good as it can for anyone’s money
Had premier with a different bank for a few years and the end result is I should have stayed with first direct.
Apart from buying a house I’ve never really had anything like £100k with them. I wouldn’t breach the FSCS threshold even if I had that kind of money just to get the banking equivalent of tescos finest.
Never bothered with it, but would certainly never risk over £85k even by a few £k as just not worth the risk when it’s so easy to avoid.
My IFA told me I was sitting on too much cash as a just-in-case fund, so all now invested elsewhere & can take from my ISA if there is a surprise greater than my cash holdings; never happened so far & my only instant cash need is likely in response to a call from the AD for an LV!
Cash deposit platforms like Flagstone allow you to split your savings whilst keeping within the FSCS. No current accounts but plenty of choice for savings.
Just be aware that with 85k invested, any interest accrued is not protected in the event of failure.
Could be quite a sum with interest paid annually at let's say 5.2%.
I would keep the total around 82k for this reason if monthly interest not an option.
A very valid point, thank you. Not sure how I missed that when I had it in cash. That would have created grumpy-Mj2k if it went wrong for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by genesos
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Since the rates have gone up I have split all my ISAs into different banks/ building soc
If they have separate banking licences then it’s not shared. Lloyds and Halifax have separate licences even though they are the same group.Quote:
Originally Posted by ichaice
Didn’t know that, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by ichaice
Bank of Dave hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by awright101
The rates aren't great. They had a great offer last summer, around 5.5-6% for a 1 year bond iirc but that was soon pulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by ichaice
Fixed Bonds with banks such as HSBC and Shawbrook are still >5% and covered by FSCS.
When I moved my ISAs last year about nine in all 2 year fixed they range from 4.6 % up to 5.4%
<3% now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hilly10
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Yes I know. There are ones that start at 4.4% but only for year one, they then drop to Circa 3% for the rest of the term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riley
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ichaice
I am getting average 5% across all my ISAs with no tax and 100% risk free. More than enough over the two years to pay for a couple of Cruises without touching the capital
Not forgetting that: (copied from https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/sa...a/#needtoknows )Quote:
Originally Posted by hilly10
"ISA savings safety works the same as normal savings. So provided your money is in a UK-regulated bank or building society account, it's protected under the Financial Services Compensation Scheme. Its golden rule counts for cash ISAs too...
The first £85,000 per person, per financial institution is guaranteed. While that sounds simple, the exact rules are more complex – not every bank in the UK is UK-regulated and there are complicated rules involving how different banks are registered and what counts as a 'financial institution'."
So, not entirely risk free if more than £85k in one regulated institution.
You just have to accept the risk and bank with a "too big to fail" UK bank. We use Lloyds and as a business will frequently have a lot more than 85k in it - the 85k protection sounds nice, but think what businesses, councils etc. have as cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
If I had 85k cash, I wouldn't worry about spreading it, but would make sure it was in a bank that the UK would support if it failed.
FTFYQuote:
Originally Posted by MB2
Quite right and presumably folk know that maxing out ISA's is the first thing to do with any savings now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hilly10